bmw n20 131501

You referenced this TSB in your comment to Ronnie back in 2017. Your really helpful : So how do I know when its time for a update. Well, you could, but it's a slim chance you get the length of the rod exactly right. Ive enjoyed your blog and I hope you will start posting again. I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. The improved DME software was introduced I want to reset the timing on my N55 but I cant lock the Vanos units in its default position. I called BMW and they said no recalls on the car and told me to take it to a BWM Official garage. I personally know of one person that had a total loss on their X1 engine in Saskatchewan back in 2016 before BMW Canada acknowledged a widespread issue with the timing chain on the N20. My question is, when I remove the central valve, will the timing chain or sprockets will slip their position? Yes it should,,,,but sometimes some random faults might still be their, The service engine light has not cleared. Today my engine shut off while I was driving. Previous posts of timing chain upgrade explains my experience. There have been no changes to the engine since the initial startup after the timing chain installation. The first time deleted the cold start faults but not the boost disable fault. BMW X3 and X4 Forums | F25 (2011 - 2017) | F26 (2014 - 2017), Second Generation BMW X3 (F25) General Forum, https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/fshaft/HtiBPV3K, https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2053485-8362.pdf. There can typically be a ton of different. its really a shame that BMW does not step up. 00 00 006 Refer to KSD2 Performing vehicle test (with vehicle 131501 Variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) intake, cold start: not controllable. 131501: Vanos: inlet, cold start not controllable Tried new battery. Fingers crossed!! Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.51.0 or higher. Apr 14, 2022 BMW F30 328i 2013 N20 engine "Drivetrain malfunction etc" comes on occasionally. three fault codes are Had mechanic put on Autel code reader diagnostics and got 10 or so codes relating to things such as the dinamic stability control, fuel pump. The production date of the car was 2015-11-17. Engine Please help! My car has very low mileage, is in excellent condition and I really enjoy driving it, but this potential catastrophe has me concerned.Thank you for your time & expertise. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. Got it replaced for half of the price in warranty, consider also the timing chain replace if needed. I ended up scanning and getting below codes. 61 00 710 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing I have a X1 E84 with the N20 engine. But, it will need to be adjusted and tested properly using genuine BMW software. Thanks. BMW like to keep some things to them selfs,,,,they dont want to release any information if they dont have to. You are correct almost all the problem are in the States,,,all the engines are built in the same plant,,,there is a good chance that the fuel is the cause of these problems,,,,yes it is a good thing your car is not on the list. Location: Chicago. i took it to a euro car guy that i know he flashed the transmission and that solved the problem, did you get it sorted I, having the same faults. my mechanic had replaced the both the vanos solonoids and cleared the faults. Replace the solenoid that the code followed. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable Thanks you! Charging pressure control: Switch-off as consequence There are no timing codes. So I was just under by kilometers and by time (Delivery was Aug 2012). I guess I can continue to enjoy the car and see what happens or sell it. Sorry there are no replacement bolts for the N20 vanes unit that I know of,,,,,yes they are aluminum,,,the N20 and N26 vanes unit are not common to break not like the older one on N51 and N52, No, no Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get covered on this timing chain problem? Hi. No turnover on start at all. Cheers. Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? Question,,,what is a DME clone,,,,is it a used DME?,,,,or a aftermarket replacement DME. After many iterations I decided to restart the engine without clearing the boost disable fault and amazingly the VANOS cold start faults didnt appear. Looking forward to the return of your blog. Your email address will not be published. 120308 charge air pressure 130E20 Jake 6,848 satisfied customers I replaced my timing chain and oil chain on my 2012 BMW carlosbosch satisfied customers Daniel But the list post on this forum shows E84 X1 xDrive28i with N20 is a recall! 'nhUO}gFXA}_+7"F.\ztVw@%/`>vny#(`YN:2ed_zI.. thanks for the input. Yes that crack in the timing chain guide should be enough to replace the timing chain and guide rails,,,,the way we decide if the car is covered is by whine noise,rattle noise,broken pieces of timing chain guide,,,how before we get the extended warranty that is hard to say,,,it all depends on the legal side of the lawsuit Im sorry to say. This website is not affiliated with BMW AG in any way, and should not be confused with the websites of BMW AG, BMW M GmbH. Ok,,,if you have a sulve then you have a N26 which is ok,,,you need to tell the dealership that you hear a abnormal whine from the engine area and hopefully they do something about this timing chain issue. to performing repairs, please see SI B01 02 11 for Emissions Warranty Coverage and refer to the So I drive a 2011 335i N55 and yesterday I was driving home and on the way i was trying to pass a car, hit the gas and as soon as i started to pick up, a malfunction light came on and immediately went into LIMP mode. Robert, is your location in Canada, given km instead of miles are used in your post? I want to make sure this issue is fixed. Thank You very much for the reply !! Could this be the timing chain? I am also concerned , like every other n20 owner, that it will grenade eventually. still the same problem. So just saw this in the nick of time. I know impulse sending wheels and camshaft they need to be lined up using a special tool. Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? or can I slowly unscrew the center valve and insert a new one? This will likely be the first and last BMW I will ever own. The engine sounds exactly the same as the first time it started after the timing chain installation. The warrantee was in place until 2019. due to a low oil pressure and chain noise.now iam having inlet and outlet vanos dtc . Looks all good. How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? This TC issue really is so unfortunate, at a time when BMWAG is behind upstart like Tesla and old foes like Audi. diagnosis system checking faults) Also after several drives and lower temperatures the fault disappeared. 2D5B VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: Cleaned spark plugs and as the mileage was 65000 so I changed the timing chain with a TOOL also. Now I'm getting the drivetrain malfunction every time I start my car. Suddenly the half yellow engine light came on and was telling me that reduced engine power bla bla. and it seems like they are about to settle this case on 9/2/2020. This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B12 15 13 dated September 2013. Page 3 of 4 I ask because here ethanol is not too widespread and should not represent more than 1% of vehicles on the gasoline market. no hesitation. and if necessary, also Car history: before selling the car last owner took it to BMW, changed oil and filters, rear tires and spark plugs. I've done exactly the same thing and caused this issue by replacing the timing chain tensioner. Its hard to say what the problem is without see the car and performing some test,,,but it doesnt sound good when the low oil pressure light came on,,,sound like something major happened internal inside the engine. N20 Vanos Solenoid Valve BMW tech info says the cams need to be locked down to remove the Vanos valve. So I have an US 2013 BMW sdrive28i with 109k miles build date 02/2013. Or anything else you have come across? The BMW N20 is a 1.6 and 2.0 L (98 and 122 cu in) turbocharged four-cylinder DOHC petrol engine with variable valve lift and variable valve timing which replaced the N53 (or BMW N52 in some markets) and was produced from 2011 to 2017 by BMW. What about the rest? The 7 years/70000 miles extended limited warranty follows the VIN, so if the 2015 X3 is on the list, the N20/N26 engine will be covered. Hi, I have a 2014 BMW 428i X drive coupe. I remove the spark plugs all 4 complete soaked and i also remove the Dinan piggy back complete and connect harness direct to DME I also replace the DME with use one [CLONE] still no start but i notice when i crack one of the injector line the fuel pressure is very low which normal be busting out the lines, fuel pump shaft is not broken and no DTC. Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. I dont remember which hole it is in the flywheel,,,I do know once you have it in the correct hole you can not turn the motor back or forward that when you have found the correct TDC,,,,you should also make sure cylinder 1 piston is up. Ive search, alot of people have it problem but no solution.It dont like bmw :). unfortunately info on this N20 is almost none exist at best. 2011 BMW 535i [0.00] 535i drivertrain malfunction. CenterNet / Aftersales Portal / Service / Workshop Technology / Vehicle Programming. If performing other ISTA diagnostics and related test plans results with eligible and covered Andrea, I just found your blog looking for answers for my used/ new to me 2013 328i with N20 engine. Bringing the BMW community together. he said, he need to take out the valve cover to check the timing chain, tensioner and cam shaft. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. https://youtu.be/FQ92t236Utg. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? Same. N20 vanos unit broken Posted on April 6, 2016 by bmwtechnician Ok here's another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. I would go to the dealer and have the engine scanned to see what fault came up,,,better to be safe then sorry. Did they use a different timing chain guide before 06/2012 ? The connector may have a removable cover. Thank you in advance. Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! If you are interested here is the rest of the story. He said the technician found this out by putting a scope in the engine but didnt explain it any further, nor did he address what the diagnostic code was for the sensor being on. My engine shut of while idle in park. Hi bmwtechnician, DME. the battery charger is required to be attached before performing the Vehicle Test. New chain and guides and so far no problems. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 BMW INTAKE VANOS ACTUATOR SOLENOID LOCATION REPLACEMENT EXPLAINED F30 F31 F32 F33 F34 428i 328i 320i 420i 418i 318i 316iIf you are trying to find where the i. Labor operation code 00 00 006 is a Main labor operation. has reduced power output. Thanks for any input. My daughters car had the timing chain issue N20. Thanks for your time. If one of the applicable faults listed above is stored in the DME then continue with the programming and it fails to program correctly or requires initialization, this additional work must F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: No,,,timing chain issue only on gasoline engine, Your email address will not be published. However I did pay out of pocket to replace by valve cover gasket at a BMW dealership 2 years ago. Four months later I got a drive train malfunction that turned on then went away after a day. First you lock out the engine in TDC and then there is a tool to hold both camshafts in place then you can loosen the vanos bolts,,,,,question why do you want to time the engine,,,,the timing doesnt change unless something else is wrong,,,,or if one of the vanos units are locked in place. Its hard to say without performing some test with a diagnostic equipment. Is there a way to test this? As many have said before, thank you for your very valuable insights and information. Hello there. Its a bit like on the list, the block of 20i and 28i is quite close, so why one seems more impacted than the other (the higher torque?). My car, BMW 320i 2014 with N20 Engine, with 33K Miles on the clock, is just broke down with a drive train error. Hi Chip.. Did you ever come across a step by step procedure in doing this? Loss of power and smoke on the exhaust when accelerating. The oil was black though. The car started fine the first time and every time since. 133E10 -permanent valvetronic system: deactivated, adjustment fault too frequent Did you ever solve this? The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. They are similar to those that are used in BMW N55. It revs fine but with the turbo disabled a drive around the block is at a pedestrian pace. Hey, I have a 2014 BMW 428i (F32 with an N20 engine) it is just under 70k around 61,000 I believe and it looks like it was manufactured in 9/2013. Just realized the cut off is February 2015, not 2014. Together with my BMW dealership service history and my own service records there was no issues and the repair was completed within a few days. With the engine running the function test for the exhaust and intake VANOS passes. Hello BMW Technician, I have a 2011 BMW 535i with N55 engine. My engine is N52 she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly The car has 176,000 kilometers or roughly 110,000 miles. if you can direct me in the right path I will really appreciated . N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. Specific eligible repairs may also be covered by the terms of the Federal, State or BMW Emissions or ground from chassis to engine? Is the fact that my vehicle is not on your list reassuring? Picture of my timing chain guide rail cracking: https://imgur.com/4P3ATsK. Hello! The car is as we speak back to the dealer for further diagnose and they have seen a slight difference in the crankshaft position or something like that.. one of the shafts was not in the correct angle. It had deteriorated and failed. Ok,,,,no the sprocket does not have to be in a special position,,,,you have to lock down both camshaft with special tool,,,engine on TDC,,,,you have to tighten the chain tensioner and then you can tighten both vanos unit,,,you should be able to hand turn over the engine to TDC and lock down the camshafts again with the tool and you should be fine after that. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. You should ask the dealer about it. 131908 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached I still have under 70k miles and not reached 7 years. 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. Thank you, No still would be concern,,,,I dont know if they used a different timing chain guide before 6/2012. After several engine stop/start cycles there were still no faults. If the fault code for camshaft position sensor goes away or swaps position from intake to exhaust (or vice versa), the fault code is being caused by the VANOS solenoid. Any help would be appreciated The boost disable was cleared by itself. I assume the tensioner is operated by oil pressure and its normal to feel some slack when the engine is not running? If that helps you with anything! Here is the list of cars that have the 7/70 timing chain extension. One or more of the following faults is stored in the What me be causing this? Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. Hi I live in California and im planning to buy a used 2015 bmw x3 xDrive28i (F25) then I saw the this post. Hello and thank you for your various articles on the n20 engine. module. I just can't find a procedure on removing the valve cover and locking down the cams. now I have a question for you and hoping to get a direction. Hello did you ever resolve that issue? Exhaust Camshaft: Installation faulty. I fear that your 2012 X1 is now past the 7 year warranty limit. with the following integration levels: When I go to accelerate now, the engine lags. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. Here the vehicle was driven only at SP98. Learn how your comment data is processed. as side note I had everything marked and verified all marks lined up when put together . We are just have an idea that it is fuel related due to other countries dont have the same problem as we do,,,and we have different fuel requirement then other countries,,,,so what might be happen is the the fuel burn is not as great as other countries and causing more stress on the timing chain causing it to break down. thanks, You might want to look at the timing chain on a N20,,,that can cause a lot of different problem, Your email address will not be published. BMW Fault Code Lookup Enter a BMW fault code (P or hex), complete the Captcha, and click "Search" P-Codes will start with a P and are usually generated by generic scanners. P0115; BMW 10AA40 Coolant-temperature sensor, electrical: no signal P112A; BMW 10AA50 Coolant-temperature sensor, plausibility: engine temperature in rel. within the BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty and this coverage extends beyond the I dont want to sell the car because nobody is going to give me what I bought it for. Turn the ignition on. But thats not what happened. Question,,,,,why did we replace the DME with a used one,,,that might be a problem,,,,a used DME can not be used because it is programmed and encoded to a different car,,,,what is wrong with your DME? The process of deleting the faults and restarting the car was performed many times. Then I changed the exhaust cam gear and the solenoid. Code 132408 Vanos Exhaust Intake camshaft not locking at start up Last question- if it is a failing timing chain- is this a something best repaired in a couple weeks, or do I have a few months. Reset codes and adaptations without increment wheel. I assume that the f31 328i RW could also be affected ? The fault returns when its hot outside and comes back even faster when I turn on the air conditioning. Sorry I dont see any video,,,,ok when you say the starter and engine dont appear to make attempt to start,,,,,question does the engine turn over when you are trying to start the car,,,,,question does the engine make any sound when trying to start the car,,,if the engine does not turn over when trying to start car,,,,try and turn the engine by hand from the front lower crankshaft bolt and see if the engine will turn. Previous posts of timing chain or sprockets will slip their position x27 ; s a slim you. 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