Web50 Trebuchet and Catapult ideas | catapult, floating arm trebuchet, catapult project Trebuchet and Catapult 49 Pins 4y S Collection by Dan Shepherd Similar ideas popular now Woodworking Warriors Illustration Science Projects School Projects Projects To Try Engineering Projects Wood Projects Medieval Crossbow Medieval Weapons Packing The angles shown in the pictures are based off of the sketchup model, but they seem to be correct. (0.4318 m) long 2 X 6 I like getting comments. On the arm, drill a hole for an eye bolt, and use a washer on both ends. This is it. Once smooth motion is achieved, begin adding weight, but do not fire anything until a max weight test is done. MAKE SURE THE EYE OF THE TRIGGER PIN IS FACING THE FRONT OF THE TREBUCHET otherwise you will have to switch it. Before you do that, though, make sure that you are driving them in from the bottom. WebThe 5DOF Floating Arm Trebuchet This is the floating arm trebuchet with a sling. If you see or hear bumping, look carefully at this back area w/ a video camera or just your eyes to see why it's doing that. Make the long arm lighter. 9 years ago for the sling Scribe the line all the way down the length of the board. Wheels are from the rotating platform from a microwave but any small stong wheel will do. 6 1/4 in. The Floating Arm Trebuchet The trebuchet is a medieval gravity powered engine of siege warfare designed to hurl a projectile, such as a heavy stone or a diseased animal, at a distant target such as castles. Our arm was made of many pieces of layered plywood held together with resin and deck screws. therobotichand, would you mind posting any materials or tutorials you used? 2 segments of 2 ft. (0.6096 m.) long 5/8 in. The longer side is responsible for throwing, acceleration quickly due to the dropping weights. the floating arm trebuchet where did it originate? Next, grab two of the 4 ft 5 in pieces. Webi'm working on a quick sketch for a floating arm trebuchet i'm making in an engineering class and need help selecting and using the correct mate tool in the on shape assembly tool. We'd have done much better with something like this. 6. As long as it's a strong, flexible cloth pouch that is big enough to wrap around your projectile, It's fine. 6 Attach the sling pouch to the arm. These machines are just as dangerous as guns. Additionally, the bending of the CW bolt meant that it was not perfectly aligned with the drop gap, so it would slow down and bump on the way down. excellent site for cheap, strong wheels http://www.thecasterguy.com/ um One drill bit MUST be the size of your threaded rod (Mine was 5/8", it should be thicker) Ideally, the drill bit would be a foot long, or 6 inches, so that the holes in the arm don't become misaligned. 8. You also might want to improve the pin system-at least make sure your pin is smooth. (0.635 cm) diameter, 6 in. I've made the pouch and strung one side through but from then on I'm lost. First of all you need two people Trebuchet. Really cool project Brother, thanks for putting together a great instructable. I'm still not sure. Today they are used mostly for recreation and education. 6. These should be fairly simple-they're just diagonal pieces. The hardest part, really, is getting the angles correct and then cutting them accura Circuits | Floating Arm Trebuchet : 7 Steps (with Pictures) - Instructables The 3/8" eye bolts go at the top of the drop channels. Finally, thread the Axle through the other hole in the middle of the arm. (Flanges would work here as an alternative) We added a tapered cut to the arm, going from 4x8 to 4x4 at the tip. Ensure that the tension will be applied in a direction that is similar to the way it is intended to be used in a car door. A good way to estimate the range is to use conservation of energy. Then fold in on top of the other one to crinkle the pouch into a more pouchy shape. Now, to attach it: Imagine the pouch itself. The sling lines, I bough 50 ft because i needed to cut the right lengths for each ratio, you probably wont really need more than 15 ft. Everything should be centered. 3. X 3.5 in. 3 years ago. Weld the inserts carefully to the plates, ensuring the axis of each insert is as close to normal (90) from the plate as possible. so then the long arm would be 3.5 times that 2 1/2 X 10 eye bolts Tie the each end of the four foot piece to one of the trigger pins. If it's too narrow at the top then the smooshing will happen as they fall closer to the bottom. A few things to keep in mind are the optimum ratio for the arm length (2:1) , or L=3P in the schematic diagram. 5. Still, I would make it a bit thicker. (0.635 cm) washers, matching carriage bolts If the shot releases at the wrong time, adjust the pin angle. Use a bowline knot. Really, be careful. On average these machines could fling material of 350 pounds onto an enemy territory. Record the next shot if the first one does not go well. the base (7.62 X 3.81 cm) diameter wheels, 5/8 id bearing load rating of 200 lbs (90.71 kilos) or more The Floating Arm Trebuchet. *look at the last step, improvements. Although they need to be lined up, don't worry too much about the squareness of the main track supports to the base, since that will be corrected by diagonal pieces, from the track supports to the track itself. Again, not critical. You also will need to push them out slightly, so that the gap is 3/4" at least. The pictures show two different models. The main problems would be the extra weight needed to really make the 6 pound weight fly, which would put extra strain on the wheels on the arm and the bolt holding them, the counterweight bolt, the counterweight boxes, the sling, the sling lines and the trigger assembly. This will take some effort. FIRST PROBLEM This is what fit for me. 6. They keep the side-to side motion of the tracks to a minimum. Also, if I mention anything else in the instructable that I didn't mention here, let me know.Materials ratio of counter weight to projectile about 90 to 1 weight. A four foot piece and 21 foot piece. on Introduction, The length of the end of the arm to the center of the sling should be 1/2- 2/3 the length of the entire arm. This way, the screws take force from top to bottom, not sideways. Next use a sheet bend (There might be a better knot for this) and tie the 21 foot piece to the middle of the four foot piece. Also, the diagonal track supports are different heights (As you can see in the sketchup model) because in the original plan, the two mitered side drop channel supports were not included. Thanks for writing this 'ible. Upon releasing the trigger, the counterweight is allowed to drop through the channel. Our shafts were steel bar. then, to check we add the short arm and long arm length together: This allows us to swap out pins, or adjust forward and backward. When the beam has cured, trim off any excess wood to make planar surfaces, and sand off the excess resin. 3. You also want to keep the track in a straight line, otherwise the wheels will fall off the edge. (We crashed once during test firing due to this) Be sure to bring bubble levels. Tie it so that it hangs about 12 inches (2.55.1 cm) from the top of the arm. I simply layed a fairly long board over the diagonal supports in the back, extending out a bit to give support to the sling until it was lifted up into the air. This may change depending on the width of your wheels. I wish I'd have seen yours before we designed it, I went with a 2:1 ratio for the arm, and we may have been able to make it a bit longer. Axel for the masses is coathanger wire but ensure the axel never absobs the full impact of the falling masses as it will bend. 1 segment of 7 ft. long 2 X 4 We think that the downward throws were caused by these two heads. Then drive 3 through the base and into the bottom of the drop channel. The sling or pouch, which contributes to acceleration of the projectile and then releases it at the desired launch angle, is often made using polyester rope or other durable thin material. (0.635 cm) bolts, matching thread 2 segments of 6 ft., 2 in. (Diagonally). ya that sounds good These will be the drop channels Really, you just want something to support your sling during the first part of the arm's swinging so the sling is not dragging on the rough ground. NEEDS TO BE MADE THICKER: LOOK AT IMPROVEMENTS Their defining feature is free movement of an axle on the throwing arm,[2] and a linear drop channel for the counterweight. This will prevent the counterweights from falling. The first sketchup picture (Sorry only have real pictures of the finished thing) shows what it should look like when your done. Image by Ron L. Toms. diagrams showing the medieval trebuchet design vs. the modern floating arm trebuchet, and brings in the relevant math as well. 6 segments of 2 ft., 5 in. However, a floating arm trebuchet is more efficient when built to a size of between one meter and five meters,[5] making it suitable for hobbyists and model builders. [5] Friction of the wheel on the arm axle against the glide track should be managed in a similar way. For the diagonals you will need the Slide the bolt through one hole, screw everything on in this order: It should be drilled all the way through the flatter 3.5 inch edge side. Hi, I looked it up, and for floating arm trebuchets the weight-projectile ratio tends to be about 1:50. The trigger held up well, but it did take a pretty hard tug to get it to release with max weight. Width was around 2 feet, I think. WebSmall floating arm trebuchet plans. Leave about 5" of uncut material at one end. Then very carefully you will have to put in the safety blocks again and reset the trigger. Here, we followed the dimensions on the drawing and cut very precisely. Change the lengths as you need to to keep the drop channels and tracks aligned. Remember to shorten the short arm pieces if you are using a larger ratio that will need to make it shorter. On each piece, mark 5.5 inches (The real width of a 1 X 6) from each cut edge. This may need to be changed. It would be better if both ends were one solid piece of wood. I like things that go boom and sushi, preferably at the same time. I'll explain later Yes, I decided to add this step after awhile. on Introduction. I haven't noticed any cracking with a 1 pound weight being fired at full speed, but a 6 lb weight will exert much more force on the arm because of its higher inertia.. It was an old rusty double- headed nail. The arm can be longer than your sheet of wood, but make sure the gaps between the pieces are in different spots for each layer. A friend and I are making trebuchet that seems to be about the same size. Just in case you didn't know Measure the amount of space in between the drop channels. [2] The projectile can be launched at a high velocity.[6]. Remember, though, that if your short arm is shorter you will need fewer bolts. (Forward to the direction of motion makes it release later, backwards= release sooner. Put the ratio hole wherever it goes. 2 segments of 8 ft (2.4384 m) long 2 X 4 Do you have the plans for this small one or pictures from different angles and aprox heights? I have real pictures, but no sketchup ones. I like the adjustable arm ratio. By tightening these outside bolts, you can change the alignment of the tracks and narrow or widen the distance between the drop channels. 9 years ago WebThe floating arm trebuchet is a modern take on an ancient war machine. Attach a 20ft + length of rope to the release mechanism on the door latch. (0.635 cm) bolts, matching thread 1 keychain ring Hole on to the axle for the next step.. you need to miter, rip, and crosscut. these will be used in the trigger For this step you will need four of the eight 3.5 ft pieces, and the two 6 ft. long pieces. 7 years ago 2. OK onto step 1 16 1.5 in (3.81 cm.) What I do not hacksaw if you don't have a METAL CUTTING BLADE FOR YOUR JIGSAW, 5.Next find the center of the folded edges. Position them in between the two main track supports and trace a line as best as you can along where they overlap; this is where you will cut the half-lap. nuts, coarse thread We did indeed build a small scale floating arm trebuchet very close to the specifications your physics assignment is calling forand it has demostrated ability to throw small "bouncy balls" from a vending machine 270 feet, and big bouncy balls (slightly bigger than a golf ball) over 180 feet. Cut through here. Now, I believe that the width between the bottom of the main track supports is somewhere around 1 ft, 1 inch. Clamp the beam and let it dry, allowing the appropriate time for curing (follow resin instructions). Cut at least 3 inches longer unless you are very good at cutting angles accurately (A miter saw would help)\ 7 years ago Need some advice please. here is a link to my but if you didn't (my bad) You need to recut the drop gap to 1/8" wider than the CW bar, cut the gap in the track slightly wider, and spread apart the track supports directly underneath the drop gap. Approx. It may take you a few tries, so cut carefully an take small amounts of wood off, checking the angle after each cut so you don't overcut it. [2] This causes the wheel on the axle of the arm to impact the glide track,[2][8] which is usually held steady with strong support beams. Place the tips of these boards 1 foot from the end with the tiny rectangle of wood. 3. On the other end of the sling, tie another rope that goes to the loop on the end of the arm. 4. WebStep 2: Prepare the Arm. Just as a reminderremember to add glue I had to add them later. Mark the height that you want the diagonal support to rise to. 1. cut off about 8 inches from the leg of the jeans. You want the drop channels to be the SAME DISTANCE APART THE ENTIRE WAY up and down their length. Before we start, there were a few problems. I have to make a Trebuchet for my Engineering product, and it must be no more in height than 80cm, so what do you think are the best dimensions and ratios for it? For me, for the side with the longer support, this was about 5 ft, 7 inches from the very bottom of the drop channel. [2] This allows for a higher drop height for the counterweight,[2] which is allowed to fall down a sturdy linear vertical "drop channel". Stick a few inches of tape over that area, making sure you get it on the inside and outside of the seam. 9. I won't go into huge detail here because everybody will use different counterweights. Basically make a box that can contain your counterweights, A shorter length sling will work better for lighter projectiles, while a longer length will be better for heavier projectiles. Twisting braces ? 4. This is the only part of the trebcuhet that can vary a lot. 2 rectangles of 3/4" in. You may even be able to get away with less. Do you still have the Matlab file? Reply For the weight I used ( 36 pounds) a 5/8" HARDENED STEEL rod MIGHT work. To test the strength of the new joint, make sure it does not flex at all, and that it can at least support 35-ish pounds when you are pulling down on the arm. A traditional trebuchet, which is simple to engineer, consists of an arm resting off-centre on an axle with a hinged counterweight at the short end of the arm. Because we are about to cut the tracks in half. Then, measure 3/8" from either side of this mark. Also, get the most straight lumber available for the longer pieces on the frame. Tighten all the knots and make sure none will slip. This will take more weight off of the long arm, which should be as light as possible. (15.24 cm.) -----------(pouch)----------- One end is tied through a hole that's drilled in the end of the arm. Your arm should look nice and smooth like the pics. (0.2413 X 0.2286m) Here are some stats, note that these apply to the original #2 treb. Line them up so that their 1.5 inch edge is adjacent to the edge of the 2 ft 1 X 6, and so that their 3.5 inch edge is on the outside cut edge of the long 1 X 6. Finally, put a nut and washer on the outside bits of the bolt that protrude from the tracks. 42. less than on a longer, heavier arm, so you have more of an opportunity to make it extremely light, if that makes any sense. lateral supports Lemme know how to improve the instructable I used the trebuchet frame as a fulcrum to lift it in the air. As it turned out, our design was over built and held up well. They have the same orientation as the main track supports. Again, the lengths can be changed slightly, but you want at least 22 feet of length away from the trigger pins when you fire. Lastly, cut through the plywood rectangle so the wheel does not bump over the edge of the plywood as the arm falls. The medieval trebuchet is a missile-throwing device, with a heavy counterweight on the short end of a beam that pivots about an axle fixed to a supporting frame. Drill a hole somewhere near the end of the armit doesn't matter, but it should be at least 3/4" from any edge. I came across a problem for the quick release. Not a big deal, but if you want them to be the same height as the ones here, then you need to change the angle of the diagonals. The walking arm trebuchet is a good example, which uses an unconventional design to great effect. 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