Lynyrd Skynyrd: 8/10 If you prefer to look at the Hall of Famers in a sortable list, here is where to go. 7/10 = Solid Picks Cheap Trick Weirdest: I agree with the consensus, Michael Jackson and Frank Zappa. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five 8/10 = No Brainers Randy Newman: 1 It needs to have ELO, Joan Baez, Yes, Tupac Shakur, Journey, Pearl Jam, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, The Cars, Nina Simone and Moody Blues. 4. Fats Domino should be moved up four rows. Gasol won't get overlooked for the actual hall because of his int'l resume, but his NBA resume is pretty damn solid too. 124. Is it fair to swap players based on one series at the tail end of their careers? 2/10 = Failure 2018 Not even a hot take at all lmao I have Durant at 14. John & Bobbie Foster WCON-AM/FM 2015 69. Thanks very much for your kind words , Nick !! Jay-Z and Biggie Smalls are in the most appropriate level. Eurthymics 12. Talking Heads: 9/10 Radiohead Nirvana Dire Straits (borerline 1/2) Nobody above him had a shorter period of being in that stratosphere. Lou Reed: 7/10 The Moody Blues Dan Issel, 88. Jo Jo White, 108. 3/10 = Mediocre The J.B.'s But Elvis Presley was known for his kindness and generosity (up to the mid-50's) N.W.A: Level 2 (tough call, but Public Enemy is at the lowest part of 3, and they're about even, though PE had longer success) Zach, most of your comments make sense to me. 1989 Bessie Smith 79. on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:25pm. Check out the sidebar on the left for many more excursions into wormhole that is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The Dells The Ventures New York: ESPN Books. Darlene Love Some possible indications: "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? The Byrds Two Oscars, helped gave popularity in industrial rock, and be a mostly one man band (where at the time was unheard of) to say the least. 6/10 = Decent Artists Wilson Pickett Ray Charles didn't make his name in Rock and Roll. As for the newer inductees, Carly Simon: 6/10, Posted by Jordan Einstein on Friday, 05/13/2022 @ 05:01am. Beat induction year: 1993, Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/6/2014 @ 14:22pm. Tom Waits: 8/10 He was a Top 10 guy for basically the entire 2010s. 4. 99. "Bill G., While there are plenty of eligible snubbed artists out there, there are likely very few, if any, who would make it into Level 4 of the pyramid if they were ever inducted (Level 5 is impenetrable at this point by any non-Hall of Famer). Etta James 4. The Band: 9/10 That's it. The present facility was officially dedicated May 26, 1973 and has since had two additions. Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 21:45pm. GFW-It's simply that he was a first ballot inductee and yet looking over his discography it's quite underwhelming. 12. How much should Hardens playoff stumbles matter for him historically? 209. Rush- 4 I put Costello on the same level as the Pretenders, a critically loved band whose music doesn't hold up. Very, very influential among a myriad of genres and artists. The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of all time. As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: The Book of Basketball was an achievement. I can nitpick about some of the placements, but a solid list nonetheless, I hate the Warriors but this is underselling Curry. My occasional communication efforts within this forum is generally framed around acknowledging my own biases and attempting to subvert them for more rationale dialog. Laura Nyro Sure. 2018 Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 20:35pm. Heart Miles Davis (Level 2) on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 02:05am. The best of the best. Advanced stats aren't super kind to him in terms of career win shares, but he's got a Defensive Player of the Year award, 5 All-Defense nods, 2 All-NBA appearances, and like Bosh, he's been a crucial part of the team that defined part of the decade. Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 10.31.13 @ 11:28am 3)John Lennon-Imagine being so overrated, it isn't hard to do, too much love being in the Beatles, but that should have been all for you. Hank Ballard (and the Midnighters) Sly & The Family Stone: 10/10 "From Head to Toe" Elvis Costello, Chris Clark Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: The Rolling Stones: 10/10 It started out as 12 and then multiples of 12 but you have had several yeas of new inductees since then. "Don't Let It End (Till You Let It Begin)-Betty Everett the Studio Group Thought of doing something interesting. "From Head to Toe" Elvis Costello, Chris Clark Posted by GFW on Saturday, 05/25/2013 @ 15:16pm. At present, either James Taylor or Laura NyroI'd say James Taylor Kareem, 3. And that's the Simmons Pyramid, right? Bill Simmons definitely understands basketball. Duran Duran 138. 221. 205. I'll do this by at least 3 or 4 parts. I agree Trent and the gang have proven to be one of the staples in not just 90s rock, but music in general. Lyrics to me are merely a supplement to music. Wilson Pickett: 9/10 212. Foreword by Malcom Gladwell "The work of a true fan . Adrian Dantley, 75. Stevie Wonder. Level 2 Regarding your throughts on the 2014 Nominees, I would say that the only group that I woundn't celebrate getting into the Hall would be NWA. We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. "Determination" The Contours. Carl Perkins Hall & Oates: 7/10 The luxury of time is that it dispenses with the nonsense, the hipsterism, the favoritism, and leaves the music to stand on its own. 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons They had just released Kid A, and since they were the most written about band at the time, I gave it a listen, and I just don't see it. The Stooges (Level 3) Wow, thanks for sharing, where do you get all this information from if I may know? The Miracles should be at Level 4. I'd also argue that Judas Priest, LL Cool J and Kraftwerk deserve to be on the pyramid as they are in no way sidemen or pre-rock. If Liny Wray was inducted, he would be on four. And it would be hard to fit both of them in level 5. I guess SONGWRITING , PRODUCING, and INFLUENCE are considered more IMPORTANT than flashy choreography,flashy clothes,and Pop success!! The Impressions: 7/10 Loudest other then metal: THe Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Who, The Stooges, Public Enemy, Dave Clark Five. Chicago The inductees on Level 1 on the other hand, are often the reason the Rock Hall makes so many people crazy. Even if she directly influenced the Riot Grrl scene. Kevin Garnett, 24. The Beastie Boys Jack Twyman, 107. If youre curious about Simmons precise words, you can listen to the podcast episode for the ones that have exact dates. Little Richard, Metallica, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, AC/DC, and Van Halen would all qualify Roy Orbison For some reason they never get as much credit as they deserve (especially when compared to other Motown artists like Marvin Gaye, The Supremes and The Temptations). 122. Favorites: The Beatles, Elton John, Queen, CSN, Linda Ronstadt, Cat Stevens, The Beach Boys, Ruth Brown, Joni Mitchell. 51. I would definitely say Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, and David Bowie should, maybe with Pink Floyd and Neil Young right behind sometime in the near future. Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? -U2 c) their influence on guitar and drum techniques, painstaking production methods, song structure and use of electronic effects extends far, far, FAR beyond the realms of metal. John Mellencamp: 7/10 Ken Cook WAGA-TV 2015 71. The Flamingos: 6/10 10.. #1 NBA community for blogging, voting in polls, taking quizzes, and public chats. The Doors: 10/10 Jerry Lee Lewis: 10/10 Granted, I still enjoy most of the artists I've advocated during my heyday on FRL, but I simply have no time for music that overemphasizes lyrics at the expense of musicianship and technical ability. But as long as they are moved up to the 4th tier, I will not be very disappointed. Run - DMC: 10/10 I love Elton John, but he does not deserve to be ranked higher than Buddy Holly & the Crickets, Black Sabbath, Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Little Richard, The Byrds, The Doors, and others who are more innovative and influential. Eminem maybe the last artist to hit Level 4. And of course not inducting producers like Eno, Rodgers, Perry, Rundgren, etc. Depeche Mode: 8/10 I read from his column that he ranked Duncan 7th and Kobe 15th. 35. The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 1991 Howlin' Wolf 10. Jason Kidd (see above), 46. Eminem (Level 4) Also available in . No. Judas Priest (Level 1 or 2) "Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair. 188. Let me know if my analogies don't work as well. Genesis: 7/10 Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 11:28am. "I Second That Emotion" Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, Jos Feliciano, Emilie, Stuck In The Middle, Thelma Jones. Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7) , Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/23/2014 @ 09:02am. P.S. Press J to jump to the feed. 2 America - a secret airline run by the CIA - flew missions no one else would touch, from General Claire Cennault's legendary Flying Tigers in WW II Powered by SMF | on Thursday, 03/7/2013 @ 23:05pm, I don't where to post this ever since that "Current Hall of Famers" doesn't have a comments, so I have to post it here or in the "The Immortals" page. Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 Bill Withers: 6/10 Sam & Dave: 9/10 DarinRG, if you've ever seen "An Evening With Kevin Smith" where he describes his trip to Prince's home, it's epic. Cream Walt Frazier. 129. Great concept! Chicago: 6/10 "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. Baez - 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 18:38pm, Posted by Roy on Friday, 04/14/2017 @ 09:13am. "Save Me" The Undertones "Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway Biggest botch Hey, the Thunder traded the wrong guy! Buddy Holly (and the Crickets) 2Pac Off the top of my head, I think it was something like MJ, LBJ, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, West, Oscar, Hakeem, Shaq, Moses, KD. Posted by Ry Guy on Tuesday, 10/13/2015 @ 18:12pm. If he keeps pushing for 3-4 more years and the Warriors get back to being contenders and Steph stays as a Top 10 guy in the league, he's moving up into the Dirk range and maybe the Pantheon. Muddy Waters (Level 5) Tupac Shakur: 10/10 Move Fleetwood Mac to 4. Posted by williams on Monday, 10/21/2019 @ 09:31am, The 2020 inductees Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:53pm, Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:55pm. Subscribe: Apple Podcasts / Art19 / Spotify / Google Podcasts. 1/10 = Not even worth of mention Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:04pm. According to the picture, that's where Level 5 is. Difficult to say. John Lennon "We have developed computational methods to measure historical significance through analysis of Wikipedia and other data sources. Nina Simone Level 5 Dolly Parton (Level 2) 13. 156. Both have had three great years. Devo (Level 1) Posted by John R.C. Posted by John R.C. 164. The Who, The Kinks, Public Enemy, Sex Pistols and Muddy Waters Chicago: Level 2 9/10 = All Time Greats He was the 2nd best player on the Lakers teams from '08-'10, but didn't make the cut for the original Pyramid. 72. Where do you see the rankings for 2015 Class? DEFINITELY !! 20. "[9] Producer Quincy Jones called the group the "Beethovens of The 20th Century" due to their songwriting talents. The Kinks 1986 Jimmy Yancey Ray Charles, James Brown & The Famous Flames, Aretha Franklin, Fats Domino, The Velvet Underground, Muddy Waters, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Queen, David Bowie, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Sam Cooke, and The Jimi Hendrix Experience are all on an equal plane of influence with those three. HOW I BECOME SUCCESSFUL IN LIFE THROUGH THE RICHES OF ILUMINATI 12. Hall and Oates Level 3 ?? I thought they were dull and uninteresting musically, and they couldn't keep my attention long enough to listen to the lyrics. Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Oops. Elvis Presley Meanest: Jerry Lee Lewis, Sid Vicious, Little Willie John. Jeff Beck: 7/10 Joan Jett & The Blackhearts: 5/10 5. 7. LaVern Baker Sister Rosetta Tharpe- 5 Monty Python & The Holy Grail And why couldnt it last? I like them for what they were, and not the over-hyped myth. Upgrade Depeche Mode, Whitney Houston, and T. Rex. I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. Yes- 4 My guess is NWA at 3, Chicago and Deep Purple at 2, Cheap Trick and Steve Miller at 1. Actually what I initially wrote about them here still works: Bob Seger: 7/10 The Doobie Brothers Agreed. Deep Purple I'd say a tier down at least. Is Paul a better athlete than Stockton? Bo Diddley: 10/10 YOU TELL ME !!! Run-D.M.C. They are also the MOST-COVERED Motown act of all timeand have the MOST Grammy Hall of Fame-inducted songs of ANY Motown groupand have the MOST SONGS on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's list of "The 500 Songs That Shaped Rock and Roll". The Who, Metallica, Led Zeppelin would all rank up there. 2/10 = Failure Simmons just completed his BOB 2.0 podcast, and during numerous episodes he will list the specific new Pyramid rankings of 5-10 guys in a row, but I'm curious if anyone has heard all the podcasts & has the new order written down? They at least had a beat and memorable songs. 69. 2012 Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) Alice Cooper: 7/10 Eminem (Last one for awhile, maybe Kanye will reach that when he is eligible), Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 02:19am. 3,2,1 is pretty much a mess. bill simmons hall of fame pyramid updated Posted by On August 15, 2020 0 romanian gas mask KG had a few years post-2010, but nothing that would've moved him up the ladder so to speak.Personally, I'd have KG in the middle of that group. Will you always remember seeing them in concert, even when you're 80 years old and peeing on yourself? Looks like this has been updated. 1992 Elmore James 3. Posted by Kyle on Saturday, 09/8/2018 @ 20:45pm, Is anyone ever going to be added to that top rung? George Harrison The Bee Gees 2 Posted by Kyle on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 05:37am. The Small Faces/Faces, The Hollies, and The Ventures 214. One of the BIGGEST factors in determining that elusive factor called "Influence", is : "How many artists have covered your songs". ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?? Would vintage Shaq have been better or worse in 2019? Posted by Dan on Wednesday, 07/24/2013 @ 17:34pm. Ray Allen [up from Level 1, below McAdoo]. Please note that joining is free of charge you don't pay any dine to become member and to contact us here is our mobile number +13092795479 and also here is our directly email iluminatihood123@gmail.com join one join all. Dusty Springfield Ricky Nelson R.E.M: 10/10 Janis Joplin Gene Vincent: Influenced The Beatles, The Clash, Jeff Page and Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin). The Velvet Underground: 10/10 Johnny Cash, REM, Led Zeppelin, Sly & the Family Stone, Neil Young, Pink Floyd, Bruse Springsteen. I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. James Taylor: 8/10 I had to move him up. 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