Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. Oh, I should mention, French BBs are the most romantic ships, while the French CAs try to play hard to get, the BBs like to get up close and sneak in a kiss (ram), although you may get in trouble for kissing those underage Anime ships, you have to do it, For FRANCE!!!! I play her as a lancer; move in at an angle, then time a turn when you have opportunity to minimize citadel exposure and pull back out, firing over shoulder while letting your 10+ km secondaries get in on the action. In the beginning phase of the game it is hard to decide which warship types to develop. Alsace 100mm 2ndary pen without IFHE: can pen up to 16.66mm armor. The biggest bump was getting used to the Richelieu's guns. Cruiser players will love them; they play like oversized cruisers. French Destroyers exit early access, and now there’s a new system for you to manage and upgrade […] Why this ship owns this tier: France takes tier VIII with the Richelieu. The Nelson-class were the only Royal Navy battleships armed with 16-inch guns and... Jump to. My experience so far in this ship is very limited and is entirely in co-op; I played her once (I think) just before I went on holiday and that was my first game after unlocking her, and then a few times after coming back from holiday and I'm so rusty my tactical performance is awful and I can no longer shoot straight. The disadvantages of concentrating the ship's main guns on the bow were compensated by the favorable turret traverse angles. There are two different answers to this question. French Destroyers exit early access, and now there’s a new system for you to manage and upgrade […] IJN: Mikasa's 305 mm/40 41st Year Type: 1 round per minute or 60 sec reload* Kawachi's 305 mm/45 41st Year Type: 2 rounds per minute or 30 sec reload Ishizuchi's 305 mm/45 Mk10: ~1.5 rounds per … Experience epic naval action in World of Warships: Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of history's greatest warships! Also, firing sixteen guns downrange never ever ever ever gets old. Someone said something like “quantity has a quality all its own.”  Plus Tier 7 is the sweet spot in current matchmaking. (bold print added by me.). I've just started on Richelieu. These ships were developed directly from the ships of the preceding class but carried 340 mm guns arranged under a more rational scheme. The Lyon makes it easy with sixteen (that’s right 16) rifles. Appreciate it. World of Warships: Legends is a free-to-play naval action MMO game where you take command of history's most iconic warships, all of which are recreated in accurate detail and recruit legendary commanders, upgrade your vessels and stake your claim to naval supremacy with or against players around the world. Alternatively, you could take BFT as an alternative to Super and that may even be superior if you don't often survive long enough for the extra heal, but I *hate* dying late game when that extra heal could have saved me. Angling baits opponents to fire at your belt and your belt will shrug off most shots; bow-on means opponents will try and snipe your turrets. I find getting citadel hits with the Lyon is pretty easy against both cruisers and BBs. I read another thread about it, and although costly, it might be worth it, especially for Alsace's two calibers of secondaries. With most of her stats coming in fairly average, the part that makes Richelieu good is in how she’s played. Plus I kept the Normandie but sold the Bretagne. Welcome to the largest subreddit dedicated to the Naval Action game World of Warships: Legends! The majority of outgoing fire is your 100mm secondaries. Being T9 you face less things you can overpen, having 4 more guns allow for more hits, armor is about the same to me, so still good, and there are secondaries that can hit all around the ship. Please make sure to read the Rules before participating. Moves fast and has decent guns. One of the most successful and well-balanced "new generation" battleships in the world. She's absolutely amazeballs. I'm just at Lyon right now, but if the high tier BBs are anything like Gascogne, I'm going to love them. Great review, poetic motion. World of Warships - free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer game from Wargaming. Awesome! The new campaign for the update features a battleship to bolster the Italian nation as well, the elegant Roma. Once I got my 18th capt point, I added IFHE and tripled my average pen damage while only cutting fire damage by about a third. Note: I did not play tier 3 or 4 as i got Bretagne from mission. But the Normandie is awful at setting fires, too. The new campaign for the update features a battleship to bolster the Italian nation as well, the elegant Roma. Tier 7 is OP. By Curiously, this pun has yet to be considered awful enough to be reported. Look at the armor model. She's wicked fast, has 12 undersized but accurate main guns (dispersion gets wonky near max range but from 11-13 km in they're deadly), her secondaries will merrily light fires and add damage, and her secondaries have more 360-degree coverage than Richelieu. Slow in every way. Evne though I'm stronger in Republique than any other t10 BB, I'd still reach for GK, Monty, or Conqueror before Republique for clan battles. My 19-point Republique captain build: PT, Expert Marksman, Adrenaline Rush, Super, BFT, AFT, Manual Secondaries. I know that's a higher tier ship with better armour, but surely at that distance SOME of my stuff should be getting through? She shares the 3x3 152mm secondaries of Alsace, although 2 in front/1 in rear whereas Alsace is 1 in front/2 in rear. Might not be what you were aiming at but you’ll hit it ? She's absolutely amazing. I was doing some digging the other day and found out some interesting stuff about Battleship guns and their actual reload times. If you don't know how to effectively angle, learn or you're not going to enjoy them. Her disadvantages included weak torpedo protection. The best solution would be simply testing all the warships of each nation. Sadly, not everyone has time and money for that. And they have good fire chance, but they don't pen anything except some parts of DDs. Online. The 127mm guns have roughly the same pen without IFHE, 21.16mm armor, as the Alsace 100mm with IFHE. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. A flotilla of Italian Warships is headed to World of Warships: Legends in the new Veni, Vidi, Vici update. Oh, I should mention, French BBs are the most romantic ships, while the French CAs try to play hard to get, the BBs like to get up close and sneak in a kiss (ram), although you may get in trouble for kissing those underage Anime ships, you have to do it, For FRANCE!!! All of the French BBs seem to have wonky dispersion and shell hits are unpredictable. Not only do you give up a bit of fire chance, but it takes up 4 skill points you can use elsewhere. You're right. The first battleship-dreadnought built in France. FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… I rushed to Alsace as I played her on test server and loved her, but I'm in no rush to get Republique. @HazeGrayUnderway did some systematic testing in a training room for some less anecdotal data, shown in quote below: In training room tests, I've timed my Alsace Secondaries to fire for 2 minutes each on FDG, Alsace, Missouri, Izumo, Lion targets. ! A question:  Do you use IFHE on your Alsace & République? Whut? Thanks for sharing your experiences @poeticmotion. She's very quirky and she wont' work well for spray-and-pray players, but her secondaries and her very powerful and fast-loading main guns make her awesome. Members. I'm honestly expecting a nerf to her; Alsace makes me look like a much better BB player than I am. With 16 shells per salvo, you’re going to hit something where it hurts. Tier 5: Bretagne is ok. I'm at T9 near to the T10 and yea, I'm enjoying the French, they are great with my aggressive play-style. I went with an AA build as I don't feel shell dispersion is all that bad especially when she has 16 guns. Its tempting to bow-tank with all your main guns mounted on the bow, but I still recommend angling as you have a tendency to lose turrets when bow-on and with two turrets that cripples your DPS. Tier 10: I haven't played Republique but from everything I've seen in-game, plus heard from a couple friends who have her, I'm in no rush. The ship carried twelve 305 mm main guns and powerful secondary guns. With Tier 5 I generally agree, though I'd like to get past my Orion and play the Iron Duke for a while to have another Tier 5 battleship against which to compare her (not that there is that much difference between the Orion and the Duke in the first place, but their matchmaking is different and that will alter perceptions). I don't have the hull upgrade yet (do have firing range & speed) as I'm being tight with my 120 million credits and 408,000 free XP. The speed, agility, and ability to flank and catch the enemy team in a cross fire cannot be understated. Created Sep 12, 2018. She's wicked fast, has 12 undersized but accurate main guns (dispersion gets wonky near max range but from 11-13 km in they're deadly), her secondaries will merrily light fires and add damage, and her secondaries have more 360-degree coverage than Richelieu. I tested it both ways; I did without IFHE for my first sixty games in Alsace, and did a ton of fire damage but not a lot of direct pen damage. Tier 6: Normandie was garbage for me, the only ship I disliked. It does not increase damage if you can already pen that armor without IFHE. She combines the mid-range accuracy of USN BBs (although with lower alpha strike potential due to small guns) with the secondary-range devastation of a Kurfurst or Friedrich. Glimpse behind the scenes at the new battleship line! The Republic is going to bring the quark back, but I can imagine once you work with the quark, she will work with you, with the 127mm secondaries or higher it can do more than just fires, and with 430mm guns can overmatch 27mm armor, and with the games I played with her in the Space Battles, I don't seem to get nearly as many overpens on broadsides. Filter by flair. I don't straight up brawl with her as much as I do German BBs, but I do play her as a lancer much like Richelieu; charge in, then use speed to whip around and kite, staying near max range of secondaries and angled away from the enemy while lighting them up with 12-gun salvoes every 25 seconds or so. Speaking of the Richelieu, I agree about the gun arcs and secondaries for kiting. In 2 minutes: WITHOUT IFHE:  BB targets survived with around 27k-32k HP remaining. They are very fast for their size, and from Tier VIII onward they get access to the Engine Boost () consumable, further addin… Wargaming has announced the first major update since their August release for World of Warships: Legends. This was a match where I ended up only engaging BBs (which is unusual for me), but still got 35k direct damage plus 55k fire damage from my secondaries. overall  a pretty good bote. The bigger difference is she has 8x2 127mm secondaries in place of the Alsace's 100mm secondaries. Her guns are a bit derpy dispersion-wise and you need to expose a lot of side to fire all of them, so you have to be good at timing and positioning to do so without getting wrecked. Taking IFHE on Alsace increases your 2ndary damage, making that opportunity cost worth it, but on Republique it doesn't. Added in Update 0.7.2, French battleships start at low tier with traditional dreadnought-style designs, but shift to designs more akin to battlecruisers at higher tiers. They don't matter anyway, it takes a few games to grind through a tier 3 or 4 and honestly, nothing can ever beat Orion. FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… Lyon can fire broadsides at least 30 degrees ahead and 45 degrees abaft, which is workable enough that I can claim "If I said this was balanced, I'd be Lyon my [stern] off". This is not a suggestion thread BTW . For players who like speed and ability to move around map, appreciate a ship that can brawl or mid-range fight with equal aplomb, and can maximize their armor angles and stay alive to kick [edited], this is a fantastic line. Tier 9: Alsace is the jewel of the line and my new favorite tier 9 BB. I usually love fast BBs but her turret firing arcs were punitive and I couldn't seem to mitigate damage well enough to compensate for her low hp. I'll write up a full review at some point but she's an incredibly good ship for a player who plays aggressively and can aim well. Tier 7: Lyon is definitely not OP, but she's a lot of fun and certainly competitive. Lyon is hysterical. i am only at richelieu and find the gun to be quite accurate. Alsace 100mm 2ndary pen with IFHE: can pen up to 21.66mm armor. The French Battleships available in early access are both sleek and powerful. Alsace can brawl like a champ (although you're not as tanky as Germans and have to be VERY mindful of your angles, and you want to stay a bit farther back, closer to the edge of your secondary range), but she feels like she is much more accurate at longer ranges with her main battery than Germans. Best Battleship: Richelieu (France) See Richelieu stats and more here. She handles like a drunk pig; slow and waddling, and her turrets take all day to turn, but once again, this is not uncommon at tier 5. This is with a 16-point captain, so before I had BFT, but with manual secondaries, adrenaline rush, and AFT. Thats ridiculously low for 494 hits. With low hp and good armor, angling is key with these ships. Alsace? The Tier VI Lyon even carries four quadruple turrets for a … It probably doubled my overall secondary damage. Tier 6's observations are interesting. So even in those games where no one on your team will push and you can't get away with closing in to knife range, you're still able to deal significant damage. Tier 7-9 are the good part of this line. Gameplay review of the French Battleship Lyon and a look at strategy for the map Fault Line in World of Warships Legends (WoWs Legends) available on PS4 and XBOX1. I need to replay those games while we still have the current patch, look at the ribbons, and see exactly what happened to those shells when I'm NOT concentrating on fighting for my life. On 4/14/2018 at 5:23 PM, HMCS_Moncton said: not normandie because that ship is a hot mess. You don't know which ships are best and which suits you the most. So, not going to do 'full reviews' like I did of the British BBs because lazy, but having played up through Alsace, here'smy quick impressions of the French BB line so far: Standard review disclaimer by me: I am an average to a bit above average player who plays mostly solo, so this is from that perspective. A series of French battleships built in response to the appearance of British "superdreadnoughts". And aside from 25mm common plate, there is nothing the 127mm guns can pen with IFHE that she wouldn't otherwise be able to without it. These battleships can deliver intense salvos on their unfortunate enemies! I can also take Expert Marksman in addition to Adrenaline Rush, and since Republique has a 1x4 front/ 1x4 rear main gun layout compared to the 2x4 front / 1x4 rear layout of Alsace, EM is more valuable on Republique since switching sides takes 50% of my main gun firepower out of action until my turrets traverse as opposed to the 33% of Alsace. Part of that was garbage teams and I got frustrated. She isn't very stealthy (although better than some BBs) but she has great speed to flex around the map, and she has low hp but if angled correctly can be very survivable. The first battleship-dreadnought built in France. Well at least Nassau was built that way, and is the ship, the ship, the Kawachi is based on. But firing SIXTEEN main guns downrange means you're going to get hits even with weird dispersion. She can get wrecked by any BB she’ll meet from the stern. Tier 8: Richelieu is VERY fun, but quirky. English (USA) Deutsch. Jump to content. 7 second reload. 11 sec reload). I was wrong. TL;DR: On Alsace, putting 4 points into IFHE is a drastic improvement to secondary effectiveness with only a minor opportunity cost (since EM is comparatively less important than it is for Republique.) V NORMANDIE. The addition of the fourth main gun turret allowed the ship to deliver a unique, 16-gun broadside salvo. IronDuke has HE, Kongo great range, NY has range and good pen, Konig has great AP and accuracy, Cesare is..Cesare...Bretagne has nothing..poor accuracy, poor shell performance, poor range and poor speed...just an overall dog. However, even with her the secondaries don’t do much damage. The ship was equipped with 380 mm guns, had a high speed, strong armor and very good torpedo protection. By dropping IFHE, I can run Super AND BFT at the same time, giving me a 10% boost to my 2ndary firepower without losing Super. I rushed to Alsace as I played her on test server and loved her, but I'm in no rush to get Republique. Why? But If I remember right, in the first datamined stats, they did not feature Nassau’s guns, but Helgoland’s guns instead, seemling at first trying to make the Tier 3 for the Germans essentially a second Kawachi, making the tier 3 ships very similar, instead of giving each nation … You need to play a total of 10 battles to post in this section. Tier 5 is annoying. Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. And don’t neglect those pesky DDs or smoking cruisers. Wargaming has kicked off its Last Battleship campaign today, which adds both the French Jean Bart and Japanese Yamato battleships to the game for the first time. I originally stated I wasn't in a rush to get Republique if I even bothered with her at all. Good writeup and I agree with everything you said thus far. The problem with German BBs in high tiers is that with the campy meta, its hard to do consistently well since you really have to get in close to maximize their DPM. This is of course a limited sample size, and is affected by my playstyle (which is generally fairly aggressive leading to occasional overreaches and a low survival rate.) I had the frustration of smacking a Gascogne last night at almost zero range with four- to eight-gun broadsides and doing not all that much. Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. The Alsace is just a better Richelieu but with less of the quark. They can set fires ok but that’s about it. Russian destroyersare an oddity; they frequently feel as if they have the powerful, fast-firing guns of their American counterparts mounted in the arduously slow-turning turrets of the Japanese destroyer line. This update adds the French Navy to the game. Their defining feature has to be quadruple-gun turrets! She is a BEAST. Its really off putting going from pretty standard AP, to fast super high pen AP that overpens everything, but once I got used to it I was consistently getting high damage, but still frustrating to play for me because I hate seeing overpen broadsides at all distances, and sub 10k broadside BBs, but still, was doing very well and I went from hating it to loving it very quickly. With a secondary build she is the best ship I've seen at kiting; her secondaries are mounted in back and her firing arcs are very wide for good "over the shoulder" shots. Her guns are punchy af and very accurate, secondaries put out a lot of fire but suffer from her tier  (since manual control of secondaries skill is only 15% improvement at tier t5). Share your naval adventures with friends and turn the tide! With IFHE, they can pen up to 27.5mm armor. A series of French battleships built in response to the appearance of British "superdreadnoughts". Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. Tier 9: a lot of competitive ships here, but the best ships are pretty obvious in my opinion, and it really comes down to 3 ships: Kitakaze, Alaska and Georgia. Her main turrets were placed in the fore end thus making any aft firing scenarios impossible. As far as IFHE, yes on Alsace, no on Republique. Welcome Guest. 167. A high-speed battlecruiser designed to counter German heavy cruisers. French Cruisers will be available as well as French Battleships, though the latter is … A battleship design created before the outbreak of World War I, representing an improvement on the previous Normandie class but carrying enhanced primary armament. WITH IFHE:  All BB targets were destroyed within 2 minutes. Though speaking of tier X Battleships this build is particularly good for Yamato ( Imperial Japanese Navy ), Montana ( US Navy ), République and Bourgogne ( French Navy ), Thunderer ( Royal Navy ). On Republique, putting 4 points into IFHE is a minor improvement at best, more likely a sidegrade given the loss of fire damage potential vs very little additional pen damage, to secondary  effectiveness with a far more significant opportunity cost (EM is more important due to main gun layout, and BFT is more noticeable due to overall slower-firing secondaries plus the harder-hitting 127mm guns. But once you get there, wheeee! Also, contrary to what I've seen people say, no ffs they're not HE spammers like British BBs were; use AP most of the time like your IJN, USN, and German BBs. She's a keeper for me, which says a lot since two of my favorite BBs are in tier 7 already (KGV and Gneisenau) and I almost never keep three ships in a tier of the same class except for DDs. Overall, which would you say was your favorite ship you tried out? Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. As such, kiting in this ship is a blast, especially since her turrets do have such strong firing arcs to the rear despite being concentrated in bow. If completed, she would have been the first ship in the world to carry its main armament in Quadruple-gun turrets. But Ialso dealt 42k damage from the fires those secondary hits set. I don't straight up brawl with her as much as I do German BBs, but I do play her as a lancer much like Richelieu; charge in, then use speed to whip around and kite, staying near max range of secondaries and angled away from the enemy while lighting them up with 12-gun salvoes every 25 seconds or so. I'm on the Normadie and I have been shooting HE; not because I want to be an HE spammer, but because I can't citadel with AP. World of Warships: Legends brings iconic warships and history’s greatest commanders to Xbox One and PlayStation 4 in the ultimate naval action MMO! Firing angles are bad, but even a blind potato can hit stuff with 16 guns. AFT is nice though in terms of boosting AA as well. World of Warships Tier VIII Best Battleships. With my 19-point Alsace Captain, I run PT, PM, Adrenaline Rush, Super (extra heal and speed boost), AFT, Manual Secondaries, IFHE. She's a bit too squishy for clan battles and such; she's not built to take focus fire even though she's tougher than you'd expect when angled well. She isn't very stealthy (although better than some BBs) but she has great speed to flex around the map, and she has low hp but if angled correctly can be very survivable. They fire a bit slower than the 100mm guns (about 4.5 seconds, IIRC) but they are much stronger. These ships were developed directly from the ships of the preceding class but carried 340 mm guns arranged under a more rational scheme. So for Alsace, IFHE is a no-brainer in a brawler build (and there are several viable builds for Alsace, but given my playstyle and the strengths of the ship, I strongly prefer a brawler build. poeticmotion, March 6, 2018 in French Battleships. Very mobile. But, the only benefit of IFHE is the ability to pen armor thicker than you would otherwise be able to. I had 494 secondary hits in a game the other day and only 12k in direct damage from that. https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/game-updates/soviet-battleships-review III Courbet. Normandie was a French battleship under construction before and during World War I. But add IFHE, and your 100mm secondaries pen almost all parts of all DDs, large portions of cruisers (except for their primary armor belts) and BB superstructures. 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