The current lot is an absolute mess. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. It'll be operated quite differently. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. Now there's a system others can look up to. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? This long term strategy for rail will be a landmark resource, enabling a clear and agreed direction for the railway. In the early years the colour faded quite badly, becoming lighter and paler with time although this problem had been overcome by the late 1970s. [7], GBR will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow and the Rail Alphabet 2 typeface for branding. You also get a more legible and cohesive transport system. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This livery was known as Large Logo livery as each side of the locomotive was dominated by a full body height BR double arrow symbol, and had the loco number prominently displayed at twice the previous size. A livery, similar to ScotRail but with the upper dark grey bodyside replaced with a dark blue, was created. At the formation of British Railways on 1 January 1948, early diesel and electric locos and the gas turbine locomotives 18000 and 18100 were already painted black with aluminium trim, but by the late 1950s this had been superseded by the same shade of green that was used on express passenger steam locomotives, although some locomotives were painted in a two-tone Brunswick and Sherwood green livery, and Southern Region electric locomotives were painted a light shade of malachite green. And other European countries cope with DB trains in France, SNCF trains in Germany etc. Instead, I just added an icon next to the full text and removed it from the main station name. Feb 1, 2020. That's what happens when small-minded people look back on a classic that was before their time with a warped sense of populism. InterCity (or, in the earliest days, the hyphenated Inter-City) was introduced by British Rail in 1966 as a brand-name for its long-haul express passenger services (see British Rail brand names for a full history).. So even if that doesn't become the actual 'GBR' logo it will likely see some use on stations and maybe trains. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. It's only as complicated as you want it to be. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago, Not at all. Eventually, it was decided to standardise on a colour which became known as Rail Blue. In 1986 the British Railways Board divided its operations into a number of sectors (sectorisation).The sector responsible for long-distance express trains assumed the brand-name . I still think" Great British Railways" will be mostly likely be termed GBR, most of the time. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I have heard that the BR double arrows will remain in use due to the fact that in the UK everyone recognises it as the 'train station' symbol. Suffice to say, an actual English nationalist would not be passing controversial legislation to enable Westminster to spend even more money on Northern Ireland, as this Government is. After contacting GBRTT (Transition Team), I have been informed of their intention to create a new livery. For cost reasons, liveries were usually changed piecemeal, when coaches came in for scheduled maintenance. the report stated that there would be some update to the double arrow, though not what that update would be. Likes Received: 1,930. The Class 309 units worked between Liverpool Street and Clacton, occasionally also to Ipswich and Norwich and later upon transfer saw the livery briefly appear around Manchester and Birmingham. English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. The 4REP and 3/4TC EMUs were a notable oddity, initially receiving all-over Rail Blue despite being express corridor stock. White letters on a navy background is the way to go. Livery Guide Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. Western. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. You are using an out of date browser. In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. Coaches from different regions could also often find themselves coupled together and trains of 2 or 3 mixed liveries were not uncommon. 19th September, 2019. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked? Official Description. In terms of signage, here's what I was working on this morning: Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway, it's good", it says "we have spent the bare minimum, stick to your car". You are using an out of date browser. Not the terms I would have used but I see where you might get that impression. From 1956 maroon (similar to crimson lake) was adopted as the standard colour for coaching stock, with corridor coaches lined and non-corridor plain initially: later on all stock was lined. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. Please can you explain the advantage of such a nationwide livery? I really quite like that now. Then theres the question of livery. All Class 42 "Warship" class diesels were delivered in green but some Class 52s were delivered in maroon to match the then-standard coaching stock livery. British Railways coaches in the crimson and cream livery used from 1949 Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. The XP64 train was used to test technology and carriage arrangements for the planned Mark 2 coaches. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. I suspect not many. Great British Railways ( GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain, [1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. What is wrong with different routes and regions having different liveries? There just isn't room on a well functioning railway for true competition, so you might as well focus on the passenger experience, not the rail operator experience. I would say GWR (single colour) is a far better branding package than Avanti (3 colours). Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. I dont think we will see train liveries being changed for a while. For this new venture a new livery - a paler shade of blue than Rail Blue, with three stripes of white, red and grey - was created with Class 47 No.47573 The London Standard painted in the new livery specifically for the launch ceremony. I agree I think the NR logo in the circle looks better, but GBR is such a mouthful - its just latent fear of the British Rail brand. [5] As Rail Blue was introduced, the last locomotive recorded as being outshopped in a previous livery was Class 43 D838 Rapid which left Swindon Works in August 1968 in maroon. Budgets and delivery will be held at the local level as well as at the national level. When British Rail operations were divided into sectors in the mid-1980s, prior to privatisation, a new version of the Railfreight livery emerged giving the sectors individual identities. The first break in the uniformity of Rail Blue came in 1976 with the introduction of the first InterCity 125 (HST). "Image of No.47163 with Silver Jubilee Union Jack", History of Blood and Custard (Crimson Lake & Cream) Livery, Information on Freight Locomotive Liveries & logos, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_corporate_liveries&oldid=1136093401, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2014, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. It does look better than red. The British Isles is a the collection of European islands consisting of Great Britain, the island of Ireland, Isle of Man and the northern islands that are part of Scotland. I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. [4] This was referred to as the InterCity Executive livery as the sets used were dedicated to operating morning/evening services operated for businesspeople. Japan had JNR (Japan National Railways) and now, post nationalisation, it has JR (Japan Railways). The colour often appears inaccurately in photographs, generally appearing brighter and bluer than the real colour. No.90021 in revised Railfreight "triple grey" livery, with Railfreight Distribution sector markings. You are using an out of date browser. Clearly "Great British Railways" does include a bit of "retro" in the manner than gWr does, for example. The history of British Rail's corporate liveries is quite complex. Apple Green. For me, it's time to sign off from the Great Western Railway Line. Goodbye. it remains to be seen if their just gonna bite the bullet and conform the entirety of rolling stock on the GBR network to a nice Blue and Cream livery. Railfreight livery, a colour scheme specifically for freight locomotives, was unveiled when Class 58 58001 drove through a plastic screen at Doncaster Works on 9 December 1982. Free delivery for many products! But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There'll no doubt be someone on here who knows, one way or the other. Standing on the sidelines of national politics and shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now. The first and second MKC signs are pretty classy and look good. This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. Find out more Contact us Freedom of Information Jobs at GBRTT Media Sign up for GBRTT News Privacy and GDPR Terms and conditions [16] As well as rolling stock and multiple units, a number of Class 47 and Class 50 locomotives dedicated to Network SouthEast passenger services were painted in this livery. It isnt hard to believe that there may be some truth to the suggestion that Johnson would be less cavalier in his treatment of Ulster if it returned even a handful of Government MPs. Scottish rolling stock not covered by the ScotRail livery (generally those on secondary services) received the Regional Railways livery, but with "ScotRail" branding. There is surely a case at least for putting the cross-border inter-city services in national colours (perhaps an updated take on Network SouthEast), to match the saltires splashed all over Scotrail trains. Boris Johnson has announced that Britain is to have a new public rail operator, Great British Railways (GBR), in the biggest shake-up of the country's trains since privatisation a quarter. The easiest way to guarantee readibility at night would be to use retroreflective coatings, like those used on road signs. Avanti merged with LNWR to form a GNWR brand. And again, there may be scope to take back control of this. No.31271 in Railfreight "triple grey" livery with Construction sector markings. Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). I would rather that operations were branded similar to how they are now, but with a few changes compared with the existing TOC areas as follows: Chiltern Railways renamed as Chiltern & Oxbridge, with brand used on all planned EWR services in addition to those from London Marylebone. The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and it's xenophobic, imperialist undertones me me want to vomit. More middle days; they were improving quite a bit in the 1990s. For example, GBR will apparently inherit from Network Rail the duty to run and plan the network, as well as providing online tickets, information and compensation for passengers nationwide. This opens up the possibility of a national ticketing app, with the Great British Railways branding. The pleasure's all mine. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . The text won't be centred vertically with the logo. I could see those different types of logos being used across scenarios. The British Isles in my old school geography books included the island of Ireland but I wouldn't have said that in my recent visit to the country! Bland, cheap, unimaginative. Something will need to be kept open for Open Access Operators to be distinguished. [14] While this livery had much in common with the "Large Logo" version of Rail Blue livery, including the yellow cabs and larger logo and numbers on the bodyside, the main colour was grey rather than blue. The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. Id like GN non-Moorgate stuff to join Greater Anglia, as they dont fit in LNER imo. It'll be operated quite differently. As part of this work, the team engaged with industry through a formal call for evidence. Agree, having at least 'intercity', 'regional' and 'metro' would be good. The old BR liveries look dated now and have done for a while. Several Class 31 locomotives received white waist stripes, these being The concession contract system will be the long-term replacement for the previous system of passenger rail franchising run by the Department for Transport, which became unsustainable early in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic. This grey panel finished just short of the end of the coach leaving a small amount of Rail Blue which then continued round onto the end of the coach. It is known as Great because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. Just like when a new TOC has taken on a franchise, the old TOC name gets removed and the new TOC name gets badged in top, like a big rectangular sticker. . Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. It's not going to be called Rail England and if it was, there'd be nothing "Queen Nicola" could do about it. Also on the Eastern Region, Class 55 Deltic locomotives based at Finsbury Park acquired white surrounds to their cab windows. European paint code RAL5020 ("Ocean Blue") is a good match to Rail Blue. Because for my money blue & grey is not the "same basic livery" as Swallow, neither is NSEs toothpaste anything like the red and cream worn in the 50s. We need more national institutions to give a British shape to life, and GBR should be one of them. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033. RM 2A03J14 - Sittingbourne, Kent, UK. 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