At the Vivarium, as the name suggests, they have live animals. She asked my opinion and that's what I'm giving. What you see in the records, is that one year 100 liters. Radiolab is supported in part by the National Science Foundation and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. PEJK MALINOVSKI: This is the verkalix church parish record. JAD: Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes MICHAEL MEANEY: A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. Transcripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. JAD: Thats just the cold logic of Darwinian evolution. BARBARA HARRIS: I decided to have a press conference in my front yard to announce what I was doing. Barbara Harris's solution is simpler than anything else out there. SAM KEAN: But this was a really, really tough place to grow up. That's a lot of people. ], I'd like everybody to meet, please, Barbara Harris. She said, "Well, she's just beautiful and she has lips like a baby doll." Last I heard she was living on the streets in LA. This is real physical-chemical interaction between what's going on in the environment and what's going on with the DNA. PAT: You picked him up right from the hospital? I have to be creative.". ", PAT: In other words, "Could I pay women who have drug problems to stop having babies?". Is that too old?" JAD: That's what good rat mothers do, they lick their babies a lot. That is a bad way to start a kid's life but that's just the beginning of the kid's life. Now, according to Carl, your genes are still fixed. BARBARA HARRIS: Saying the mother had given birth to a baby girl, did we want her? You are not God. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You would be licking them quite a lot. JAD: So he's got to live his life as a toad with all this baggage on him? You've got these toads who hate water. But here's what I did not know about DNA. When they got another call from a social worker saying that same mother, Destiny's birth mother, had given birth to another child. I make a difference to her. Famine again, and these changes would just bounce back and forth. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of someone halfway across the world. So by now it's 1994, and Barbara is thinking You know? So yeah, she keeps me busy. You know, the fact is that taking care of animals, trying to keep them alive in a building is not an easy thing, especially if it's 1903. Visited Kammerer's lab when Kammerer wasn't there. We neuter them.". BARBARA HARRIS: Yeah, the social worker called and told me the mother had given birth. But if you've got a mom who licks you. Yeah, there you go. ], What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics?]. Where we sought, they will find. CARL ZIMMER: Is your wife going to hear this? PAT: And she says, one day, this idea just came to her. JAD: Famine again, and these changes would just bounce back and forth. And um PAT: Doctors would later explain to Barbara that Destiny's mom had been addicted to drugs while she was pregnant. I'm Executive Director and Founder of National Advocates for Pregnant Women. So much can happen after that. Thats like, I mean, that seems like a thing that would be frightening. Just until they hatch and then 'til they go off. PAT: Did that scare you at all? So we did stop. JAD: If the genes are the bottom floor, then this layer on top is sometimes called the epigenome and that thing can change based on your experiences. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology Yeah, we're exploring questions of lwhat can you pass down to your kids and their kids? I mean, when you think of Kammerer, there was a report in science outlining a theory about how Kammerer's toads got these characteristics that invoked these epigenetic inheritance and imprinted genes and it made it plausible. PEJK MALINOVSKI: And we have a lot more grain here. JAD: Most toads, he says, love to stay in the water. PAT WALTERS: Mamaw was the one I'd come to see. Its a terrible thought! BARBARA HARRIS: That's how we ended up with four of them. Assuming that you can survive the ordeal, and you grow up, and you have kids of your own, the data seems to say that your kids will benefit from your suffering. You just have to weigh it, is it worth it? Thanks to Olov Bygren, reporter Pejk Malinovski and Karin Borgkvist Ljung, and I'm a senior archivist at the National Archive in Marieberg in Stockholm. I'm trying to remember. We went to the foster home and went in. PAT: Because she says as soon as she saw Destiny BARBARA HARRIS: Sat her on my lap, with her little dress on and her little curly hair. If you start smoking when you're 10, 11 something like that, you end up having children with more problems. Thyroid hormones then get into the brain and they turn on certain neural chemical signals. Well, yep, that is so true. The question that was stuck in my head right then was, "If you could choose between being born knowing that your life might end up like that and not like it is now, or not been born at all, what would you have done?". She's 20 months old. JAD: I tell you what I'm going to do though. JAD: I want to start with a parental day dream for a second. Radiolab: From Tree to Shining Tree LISTEN Three guests: Suzanne Simard, a professor of forest ecology and teacher at the University of British Columbia, Jennifer Frazer, a science writer that has a blog called The Artful Amoeba, and Roy Halling, a mycologist. They both say that they actually often forget that they're not biologically related. JAD: Or does it get passed on such a deep level that doesn't even require teaching? To any drug-addicted woman who will agree to have no more babies. But she says she doesn't feel that way anymore. They have six, seven, eight, ten, fourteen.]. JAD: It's off-limits. SAM KEAN: And he would basically turn the heat way, way up in these aquariums until they had to go underwater. I have to be creative.". This week The Science Show introduces Radiolab from WNYC in New York City. We inherited this beloved show that we first fell in love with as listeners. You dont really say it to yourself that way, but yeah. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: Who, together, pledged more than $150,000 to her program.]. He thought it worked with humans, too. I do mean that. JAD: Still, that's a burden that, he's carrying a big burden there. Sincerely, Jennifer.". CARL ZIMMER: It all came down to this jar with his toad in it. Yes, she has the same name as me. PAT: Even though Destiny's mom was doing all sorts of drugs during her pregnancy and the doctors told Barbara that Destiny was going to be mentally and physically delayed DESTINY HARRIS: Not feeling the way I'm supposed to feel. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Why? ROBERT: Which turn out to be an interesting thing to look at it because the people in verkalix who were farming SAM KEAN: Trying to eke a living out of the soil. And she says, one day, this idea just came to her. Kalia came too. ROBERT: Do you know anything about the other four? If your grandpa didn't starve, instead he lived through great times. CARL ZIMMER: And when it came time to mate, the males and the females, they would mate in the water. SAM KEAN: Lamarck, Jean-Baptiste Lamarck. She got one. The fact that you're motivated by a really beautiful, important value, that we want healthy kids, doesn't mean the mechanism you're using is going to end up helping those kids. ROBERT: I wonder. They lived longer lives, something like 30 years on average. So thats the reason, of course, that we work with rats because we can get inside the brain. Kalia came too. But according to Kammerer, here's what happened when he heated up the toads little cage. I mean, he hates water. A lot of times that's not the case. JAD: When rats have more of this protein, they will act more motherly. BARBARA HARRIS: Light bothered him, noise bothered him. PAT: Barbara says they've reached out to her many times but they never heard back. So then over the next 70 some odd years, Lamarck basically became the poster boy for, like, the big dumb idea, the idea that you want to believe in but that you know isn't true. PAT: The way she saw it, the state, the federal government, somebody BARBARA HARRIS: Should say, "You're not doing this. Peanut butter, there we go. ROBERT: And rewrite the so-called rules of genetics. The sneaky idea here is that the blacksmiths, the giraffes, they made it happen. But I take it that we have more control over our destinies and our kids' destinies than we would've thought. Radiolab is supported in part by the National Science Foundation and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. It's only the mechanisms are not so clear. JAD: Because while you might have a lot of influence, you know, genetically speaking, over your kids and their kids, you don't seem to have a lot of control. PAT: That's a lot of people. Wow. Right below the headlines says, "Scientist's great discovery which may change us all.". You're eight, sorry. Each stone represents a radioisotope by means of a. He works at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden where he studies population data. You know, like if you're abused as a kid, you were more likely to abuse your kid, but still, you got to wonder. JAD: And thats wrong [laughs].Thats not how it works. Taylor Swift's Never Getting Back Together. His example with humans was a blacksmith. But it failed. Radiolab 50.3K subscribers Subscribe 29 1.5K views 6 months ago On this episode, the case that pushed one Supreme Court justice to a nervous breakdown, brought a boiling feud to a head, and. Who, together, pledged more than $150,000 to her program.]. That's my little girl. PAT: Isaiah would sleep and he would scream. And he makes a very careful study of this hand. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: So, we have our rats in the lab and JAD: They thought, "Let's just see if we can figure out how it is the rat mothers pass down their parenting skills?". a rat mother licking her baby can have such a profound effect, basically change the expression of the genes in the baby, well that's hopeful. CARL ZIMMER: And he says, "This isn't a nuptial pad, it looks darkened but that's just ink.". He thought it worked with humans, too. LYNN PALTROW: Are there people whose drug use is so out of control they can't parent? She said, "Well, she's just beautiful and she has lips like a baby doll." The kingdom archive. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: Well, I just want to eliminate drug-addicted babies from being born. Or is it? That's interesting. These people are paying millions of dollars to take care of your children!]. Like, I mean, as far as positives can go, I think I hit the jackpot. And he said, "Barbara, I'm not buying a school bus." Knock it right off the DNA. We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our programming as we can over time. JAD: How do those cycles perpetuate? And right now, I'm student teaching. Completely answer all questions in Section I AND Section IV. OLOV BYGREN: The results are there. PAT: Who gave Destiny her first checkup told Barbara BARBARA HARRIS: That she was delayed and she was always going to be delayed because of her prenatal neglect. Yes, but creating an assumption that there is a class of people who don't deserve to procreate, who aren't worthy of procreating the human race, leads you down a path that we should have great concern about. ROBERT: Inheritance, what you can move on to the next generation and what you can't. And even though they look basically nothing alike. That was nice. You just haven't evolved for this and there's no way you can, at least not quickly. And in one day, we can imagine, he gets curious. She actually emailed me afterwards and adjusted that number down a couple hundred. When Kammerer published his results initially, a bunch of scientists immediately began to say "Wait a minute, hold on here, it would be nice if life was like that but life isn't like that. But then, a few years would pass, crops would bounce back. I just saw them as child abusers. But wouldnt it be nice if thats how it worked? JAD: I mean, were not gonna do that ourselves. The neural chemical signal that gets activated during licking, is serotonin. Then, Carl told us about this research that showed JAD: Well, he couldn't quite remember the details. MICHAEL MEANEY: So thats the reason, of course, that we work with rats because we can get inside the brain. ROBERT: But then, a few years would pass, crops would bounce back. ROBERT: What a name, you've got to like this guy. PAT: But were getting ahead of ourselves here. That the licking is changing the baby's DNA? Well, the DNA, the RNA, micro-RNAs, histone. They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. And that number, by the way, has grown a lot. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: That's their choice, but the babies don't have a choice.]. Or did I somehow learn that? More of this particular protein. And um Doctors would later explain to Barbara that Destiny's mom had been addicted to drugs while she was pregnant. JAD: Plus, you know, Lamarck didn't get all the biological details right. Because the truth is, you have no idea how these kids are going to turn out. Where we sought, they will find. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You know, you've got all these chemicals around. Three of them ended up in other foster homes and seem to have done pretty well, but one of them DESTINY HARRIS: Okay, well of them, don't really know what happened to her. Well, her explanation is that these women are having, in her terms, litters of damaged babies and society forever will be responsible for them. SAM KEAN: Except he had one. I'm graduating in December. JAD: No, not brain cells. ROBERT: Kammerer, for one, was sent off to work as a sensor for the Austrian military. JAD: What's he talking about? Then choose either Section II OR Section III and answer all questions in that . In this episode, originally aired in 2012,we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations.Support Radiolab by becoming a member ofThe Labtoday. CARL ZIMMER: I just have to read this to you. CARL ZIMMER: Yeah. PAT: Watching this, I couldn't help but think that Destiny's very existence is probably the most interesting argument against what Barbara is doing. I make a difference to her. Well, I guess I was thinking we could just start at the beginning. Then 275 words will cost you $ 10, while 3 hours will cost you $ 50. Basically, the midwife toad has a strange habit for toads. But at that point just two of the six boys were living at home, Brian and Rodney. And Destiny was in the other room, sleeping or something, I'm not sure. Radiolab is on YouTube! JAD: Michael and Frances looked inside the brains of these rats and what they saw was that the rats who had been licked a lot as babies, they had more stuff in their head. Maybe they'd try and jump back out, but it was still hot so they'd have to jump back in. The results are there. Just to be sure, we asked Frances Champagne what she thinks of this data. JAD: And then, Michael just launched into this thing. JAD: Because you begin with a mother's lick that ends up with a deep, deep change in the baby, not just the good, warm, fuzzy feeling, but a fundamental shift in who that baby is, and who that baby will be. SAM KEAN: This was a really, really big effect. PAT: In this magazine article, Barbara even said, quote, "We don't allow dogs to breed. They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. You must have internet access to do this). So here's what you're going to notice. But here's what I did not know about DNA. BARBARA HARRIS: He wasn't a little happy baby. Including a particular amphibian that plays a very big part in this story. About 30 years ago-. [laughs] Can you say, "Never, ever?" How was this woman allowed", "To walk into the hospital and drop off a damaged baby and just walk away with no consequences?". PAT: Yeah. ROBERT: You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? Remind me this. ROBERT: Because there is more data, more information about the people of verkalix, going farther back into the past than you can find almost anywhere else on Earth. _. Radiolab is on YouTube! DESTINY HARRIS: Taylor Swift's Never Getting Back Together. Twitter: @wnycradiolab Language: English Contact: WNYC Radio 160 Varick St. New York, NY 10013 (646) 829-4000 Website: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/ Email: radiolab@wnyc.org Episodes Golden Goose 2/17/2023 More Which, when you think about it, it has a very Lamarckian flavor. Part 2 of our collaboration with Radiolab. Its something I still think about all the time. And the incredible thing is, those marks stick around. That's a lot of people. And then that baby would stretch and stretch, and it would give a little more stretching to its baby. Anyhow, so you got this guy, Paul Kammerer, who's good with animals. I mean, they didn't have porridge. He's not even eating at all. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics? I mean, yes, I might get a great family, but I might not. We actually sent our friend, Pejk Malinovski, to the archives in Stockholm to check it out. In a very real way, weve been thinking a lot about inheritance. The bit of DNA that will give this baby when it grows up the instincts to be nice to its baby, and lick that baby. I'm the founder and director of Project Prevention. And, I mean, I have straight A's and I'm making it work. But a few of us make a habit of it. I don't know where she gets that from. Radiolab is a radio program broadcast on public radio stations in the United States, and a podcast available internationally, both produced by WNYC.Hosted by Latif Nasser and Lulu Miller, each episode focuses on a topic of a scientific and philosophical nature, through stories, interviews, and thought experiments.. Radiolab's broadcast edition airs as an hour-long program each week while the . LATIF: And as of 11:01 a.m. on Tuesday, when were recording this, we have not broken the show. Were there any consequences? This was a really radical place at the time because you have to remember that people studying animals up till now, they were basically studying preserved specimens, and so on. People can't just will themselves into a more perfect form. You know, inside these cells, in the center, coiled up in little spools, is the DNA. CARL ZIMMER: But there were a lot of skeptics. The results are obvious to you. You're not leaving this hospital unless you have long-term birth control.". Destiny has, what, three brothers and sisters that also were raised with her? And again, Barbara thinks, "Come on, but if this little girl is here, she should be with her brother and sister. Or does it get passed on such a deep level that doesn't even require teaching? You got your good parents and your bad parents. I just have to read this to you. And as soon as she got there to pick him up, she could tell that something was wrong. He was a born nurturer and he adored animals. Well, that's the good news, but unfortunately there is some bad news here. SAM KEAN: And his lab ended up getting destroyed. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Do you see the owl?]. Its just That's just how I've always looked at it. Well, yep, that is so true. Females seem to hate laying eggs in the water, but is that the end of the story? But she says, you can tell right away, just by looking, that some rat moms don't lick their kids a lot. I'm going to graduate with honors and one day I'm going to be able to tell her, "Look, I did this. And he would basically turn the heat way, way up in these aquariums until they had to go underwater. We had an expression here, "Dig where you stand." SAM KEAN: Basically, the midwife toad has a strange habit for toads. He was just You know, most babies are kinda peaceful, he was never really peaceful. But according to Kammerer, shortly after these toads got into the water, they did begin to evolve fast. JAD: Actually, the idea itself is pretty old. He thought that you could kind of engineer societies by changing the environment. ROBERT: Is that what you're saying? It's against the rules. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I'm going to go out into the streets and offer addicted women money to use birth control. CARL ZIMMER: Just until they hatch and then 'til they go off. JAD: So I guess you could say to yourself, "Seven out of eight of these kids did all right?". You're now hearing Lamarck's name invoked these days because there are things beyond genes that we pass down to our children. How much of you will echo into the future and how much of you won't? Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. As to diabetes, it was a four-fold risk. ROBERT: So you think you can get deep down? Could you just tell us what you are doing now? And again, Barbara thinks, "Come on, but if this little girl is here, she should be with her brother and sister. Were less prone to diabetes. SAM KEAN: Because it would reflect badly on the Soviet state. Yeah. Maybe more. LULU: And were trying to think about how do we keep it the same in a lot of ways, but also how do we let it grow into something beyond what it was originally built to be. You know, when smart people say, you know, "There's no such thing as nature and nurture it's only interaction of the two," You're like, "What the hell does that mean?" I didn't see them as people. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? Like shed give the women a choice. LULU: In a very real way, we've been thinking a lot about inheritance. And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". He was miserable to look at. We'll just be honest. ROBERT: And to believe anything else, that's naive. She is nine. Suddenly you're marked. Test the outer edges of what you think you know. And I didn't find a single case of someone saying that they regretted what they've done. And so, you could only see one nuptial pad, and it all comes down to thisand all of that was just about to fall apart. DESTINY HARRIS: Our staff includes Alan Horn, Soren Wheeler, Pat Walters DESTINY HARRIS: With help from Matt Kielty, Chris [unintelligible 01:04:17], PAT'S DAD: And Kenny [unintelligible 01:04:18], PAT: Special thanks to Martin [unintelligible 01:04:21]. PAT: And as soon as she got there to pick him up, she could tell that something was wrong. You can do this. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: I mean, when you think of Kammerer, there was a report in science outlining a theory about how Kammerer's toads got these characteristics FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: that invoked these epigenetic inheritance and imprinted genes and it made it plausible. It goes back to the 1800s. I'm graduating in December. Catch up with new episodes and hear classics from our archive. DESTINY HARRIS: And right now, I'm student teaching. What's he talking about? fact checked by Jamie Frater. You just haven't evolved for this and there's no way you can, at least not quickly. A couple of days later, I had already bonded with her so much, it was as if I gave birth to her. But what exactly. Plus, find other cool things we did in the past like miniseries, music videos, short films and animations, behind-the-scenes features, Radiolab live shows, and more. [chuckles]. And, you know, there was kind of antisemitism growing at this time, so he thought that someone had framed him, and six weeks after Nobel published his results in Nature, Kammerer sent a letter to Moscow. I could have turned out like some of the other kids. If they see methyl groups sitting on that bit of DNA, they are pissed. She's 20 months old. LYNN PALTROW: I'm Executive Director and Founder of National Advocates for Pregnant Women. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. DESTINY HARRIS: Oh my goodness. She was thinking BARBARA HARRIS: "Everybody's motivated by money., BARBARA HARRIS: Can I offer these women money to use birth control? PEJK MALINOVSKI: What does that mean, he was an idiot? It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. Were just talking about toad, I thought. CARL ZIMMER: To build these terrariums and aquariums and stock them with animals. CARL ZIMMER: She is nine. ROBERT: So, the thought is, when those little boys in verkalix were really, really hungry, their hunger started a chemical process that reached all the way down to the DNA inside the boy's sperm. LULU: Yeah, thats it. How old are your boys right now? Well, he thought it might have been an assistant trying to frame him because he was Jewish. And in one day, we can imagine, he gets curious. This great. Since birth. [expletive] That was awesome. That's it. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: There's a normal distribution, right? JAD: Do you have any theories for how this tongue is tickling the DNA, or whatever it's doing? I wont say too much more except it includes one of my favorite kind of scientific parables that like Ive ever heard. The neural chemical signal that gets activated during licking, is serotonin. It's only the mechanisms are not so clear. I want her to be able to look back on her life one day, maybe when she's getting interviewed, I don't know, and be able to say that, "Yes, my mom was there for me 100% without a doubt." This was a really radical place at the time because you have to remember that people studying animals up till now, they were basically studying preserved specimens, and so on. ROBERT: Truth is, we dont know precisely how this happens but somehow the experience of starvation marks the DNA. And Barbara is not offering that. MICHAEL MEANEY: I was an undergraduate student. CHARLOTTE ZIMMER: Hi, my name is Charlotte Zimmer. Why would that happen? "She's born and tested positive for PCP crack and heroin." "To Whom It May Concern, I have been doing very good. SAM KEAN: Very easily. Radiolab - Transcripts Subscribe 187 episodes Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. I guess the way I would look at it is that you can change your environment a lot more easily than you can change your genes. DESTINY HARRIS: No, she was an oops kid. Really slowly, gradually, achingly slowly. PAT: And according to Barbara, the majority of the women she pays are white. TRANSCRIPTS. [1] Radiolab was founded by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich in 2002. We'll just get one more.". JAD: I know! I just didn't think. PAT: She just knew, "This is my daughter.". She said, "Thank you so much for the gift, I bought my son an excavator truck, remote control and some summer outfits." ROBERT: And that advantage, whatever it was, because it starts with one individual, and then it gets passed onto the kids, and then onto their kids, it would take a long, long, long time to spread through the whole population because, generally, that's how evolution works. I don't like to upset people. I know! And she's a complete nut. ROBERT: Cause we were talking to science writer, Carl Zimmer, and he told us that back in the early 1900s, this tension between Lamarck and Darwin got extra tense. Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. JAD: It's writer, Sam Kean again, and here's, he says, what you need to know about the midwife toad. LULU: Did you know there is a part of this show is gonna be like crazy breaking news, like happened yesterday and we already have a deep take on it? If you've already had a kid, you can be sterilized. Okay, you want to say bye? 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