For our premium ad-free experience, including exclusive podcasts, issues and more, subscribe to. Brian Houston, who began the church in Australia, he's accused now by Australia of covering up his father's sexual abuse of a minor. Hillsong has an unusual structure around the royalties for its music that gives the church the performance royalties in addition to those paid to the songwriters. I hate to say it but the vast majority religious people are gullible not sheep but just flat out mindless lemmings. Freese volunteered on the churchs security team for eight months and he served as director of security for seven weeks. The three high-profile pastors Freese emailed were named in his open letter as overseers for Driscoll. They need local elders. Browse 60+ years of magazine archives and web exclusives. Putting it off is only going to make it worse. She claimed that when she tried to tell pastors at Hillsong, they "blamed and silenced" her. And when a church hits 1,000 there are enough staff members and congregants that even subtle moves in leadership affect peoples paychecks, trust and lives. This failure is on me, and me alone and I take full responsibility for my actions., Later that month, 34-year-old jewelry designer Ranin Karim revealed in Vanity Fair that she was the woman who had an affair with Lentz after they met earlier that year. He added that Randal Taylor, the marketing strategist, also used a law students login to a legal system to dig up all kinds of dirt on a former church member. This is so often the life of a mega-church pastors. Brisky couldnt say when Morriss official position of oversight ended and didnt answer how Morris planned to address the concerns raised in Freeses open letter. And that really seems like the sort of first domino in the U.S. CHANG: Yeah. He emphasized the orthodoxy of Hillsongs statement of faith and lyrics. When our hearts are in the wrong place and we no longer connect with the worship or sermonwe shirk responsibility and place blame. Think about it: Every email they write, every meeting they have, every sermon they give is them doing their very best to make sure that people know Jesus. It enters the world as a commodity; it enters the world under a brand name, he said. Her channel is full of videos on narcissism for those who are ignorant of what it is and how it works: https://www.youtube.com/user/DoctorRamanDurvasula. But no matter the case, we must do whatever we can do make the role of a pastor one that truly allows for a person to be a human. The conversation around Hillsong music also runs parallel to considerations around promoting the work of fallen pastors that have emerged in recent years. I am grieved that what I said did not communicate or align with what I truly believe. STONE: Well, I suppose it depends on who you asked and how far back you went. He continues to hurt many people and it is now getting out of control. Five months since the firing of adulterous NYC superstar pastor Carl Lentz which exposed rifts across the church, fraud accusations and congregant allegations of abuse Hillsong's senior pastor. Hillsong leaders have criticized the Discovery+ documentary, saying its slanted portrayal is an attempt to harm the church, not an effort to present a true and fair account its ministry work. The announcement comes as vindication for those who previously spoke out against the Bogards. The doctrine there, however, seems to be shifting. I just wanted to come to you today and sincerely apologize for the use of the phrase on Sunday, white blessing.. Unlike worship leaders in the context of a church service, music historians have the benefit of teaching and engaging with musical works while providing extensive context and facilitating discussion about a particular composers biography. Whites daughter, co-host of Apologias Sheologianspodcast, now has a new husband. What is wrong with the women that support and carry water for these guys? He just wants to pass the blame and shame us enough so we stop talking. After new elder nominees failed to be elected for the first time in the churchs history, Platt told the congregation in a sermon in early July that a small group of people inside and outside this church coordinated a divisive effort to use disinformation in order to persuade others to vote these men down as part of a broader effort to take control of this church.. We will not apologize for our increasing diversity or our commitment to humbly address racial issues from Gods Word as we unite together on a glorious mission to proclaim this good Word and our great God in a city where five million-plus men, women, boys, and girls are on a road that leads to an eternal hell and need the good news of Gods love for them, he said. It believed in gospel preaching and holiness. Trinity kicked a father out of the church, after Driscoll discovered the mans 15-year-old son had kissed Driscolls daughter. Now, the former head of security at Driscoll's new church in Scottsdale, ArizonaThe Trinity Churchis pleading with these pastors to act. Enough question marks. When the pastor says, "Hey church, let's do XYZ!", hundreds of people do XYZbecause of the awesome pastor. Musicologists and critics have considered how we engage with songs produced by problematic composers for centuries, and revelations around contemporary artists like Michael Jackson and R. Kelly have also challenged how listeners engage with groundbreaking and chart-topping songs. It speaks volumes to me and a lot of other people, Thrush said. Pastor Rick Warren of Saddleback Church, which is affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), is stepping down from his . Hillsong was seemingly out to make evangelical Christianity. Opponents of McLeans current leadership wrote in a blog posted by the right-wing Capstone Report that Plattwho became pastor of the DC church full time in 2018was attempting to purge conservative members., Platt also described one email circulating that claimed MBC is no longer McLean Bible Church, that its now Melanin Bible Church., I know its so ugly and painful to even hear, but I want to point out the approach thats being used by people giving leadership to this group in these meetings, he told the congregation, calling the claims made about him and the incoming elders unquestionably untrue and in many cases completely unreasonable.. The. Yet, several high-profile pastors who have longtime supported Driscoll have stayed silent, including Jimmy Evans of XO Marriage, Robert Morris of Gateway Church, and North Coast Church's Larry Osborne. Helping a Diotrephes is like stepping into a bog. Musicologists are very good at drawing up borders around the circumstances in which a piece of music was composed and the way the music itself goes, said Peter Mercer-Taylor, a professor at the University of Minnesota. I think its easier to be a lone adherent to Biblical meaning making; than it is to be an adherent within a Church. Both moves raised questions for some members. To meet Driscolls demand, one staffer canceled his sons birthday party, another disrupted long-anticipated vacation plans, and a third canceled crucial marriage counseling with his wife, Freese said. Most of the criticism around Mark has surfaced from behind closed doors. Several outlets, including The Roys Report, have recently published numerous allegations of abuse and financial misconduct concerning disgraced former Mars Hill Pastor Mark Driscoll. Whites former son-in-laws family blamed Apologia Church for their loved ones stumbling into sin. I think people in this forum could do a lot better at understanding this. As recently as this past February, Morris, Evans, and Taylor were named on the website as providing wise counsel, but now their names have been removed. You have threatened people with lawsuits, Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDA) and even threatened to cancel severance payments to those whom you kicked out. I hate to say it but there are many women that arent sugar and spice and everything nice. The Genesis 11 story is about pride, but not in the way we think. When the megachurchs former pastors are in the news with allegations of scandal and abuse, what a contentious name it is. If you want the gory details, just Google their names. Again, that's just what the church claimed. Like, do we know its reach? Many factors, all amplified by the pandemic, have resulted in the difficult decision to pause all operations at Hillsong Dallas for now, Brian and Bobbie Houston, the husband-and-wife team who co-founded Hillsong and currently share the title of global senior pastors, wrote to congregants in a Saturday email that was forwarded to The Post. The Tattoo fundraiser was held by a tattoo artist, who attends Apologia, in which the video shows a man receiving a tattoo on his arm in exchange for charity to financially assist the tattoo artist in his participation in theKauaichurch plant. STONE: Well, a lot of it has happened so quickly, in the last few weeks even, that I think they're reeling. Venue Church Pastor Tavner Smith apologizes for 'inappropriate relationship' in return to pulpit. They argued that these werent fundraisers, but only events used to raise funds. They insisted that Apologia Church was a positive recovery environment for alcoholics and addicts, in spite of a booze fundraiser and certain lay leaders like Marcus Pittman who encouraged alcoholics to drink with control in order to prove their sanctification. A number of things in this article are factually wrong, but abuse is NEVER ok. My understanding is that Anna was originally abused in her fathers church in Pennsylvania. We are to blame for this epidemic, and we are the ones who must insist that our churches allow everyone to be fully known, fully human and fully under the headship of Christ. Christian News Network found a video posted online under Marcus Pittmans personal Facebook page. In July, COTH broke ties with Micahn Carter, a COTH pastor who had come to the church in 2019 for restoration. 2023 BDG Media, Inc. All rights reserved. The Reformed church has always tried to separate themselves from the world and the culture. Candidate Kari Lake at Freedom & Faith Concert, Mark Driscoll Claims Mars Hill Leaders Were Plotting to Accuse Him of Adultery, https://www.youtube.com/user/DoctorRamanDurvasula. Us. For others, the primary concern may be more about being identified with an organization that has lost its moral authority. We must do whatever it takes to not allow these men and women to be consumed by our expectations and worship of them. "Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed will take viewers on an eye-opening journey that will provide new insights into a controversy that continues to be examined," added Lee. Evans continues to list Driscoll as a team member with the marriage ministry Evans founded and continues to lead, XOMarriage.com (formerly MarriageToday). 3. The Bogards did not respond to a request for comment. But give him some time. What's going on at a deeper level here? Freese included some screenshots and copies of incident reports along with his allegations. The triteness of the endeavor was not the controversy but, in particular, the irreverent humor. After that incident, Freese said, one of the pastors told him Driscoll was upset because I didnt draw my firearm on the man that got on stage.. The recent fall and firing of Perry Noblefor that matter, Darrin Patrick, Tullian Tchividjian or any number of mega-pastors who have been removed from their pulpits and leadership positions for what is referred to as a moral failing. In other words, they got caught doing something you wouldnt want anyone doing, much less your pastor. What Can Christians Do About Climate Change? If they do not follow through in repentance fully they will just soon end up repeating the same pattern with a different anti-Christ pastor. Welcome. Image Source: YouTube Screenshot/Saddleback Church. Now we know, of course, that its not really their job to bring you closer to Jesus. Luckily, (Driscolls personal security lead) followed protocol and created an incident report with the staff members name redacted. Some churches had already opted not to include songs by Hillsong (or Bethel or Elevation) because of conflicting beliefs or different approaches of ministry. Every weekday, get RELEVANT's top five articles delivered to your inbox! The question over whether to keep playing Hillsongs music in worship falls in an interesting place. If the blind lead the blind they will both end up in the ditch. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. The total was either just above or just below 75 percent, depending on whether provisional ballots were counted, so a second vote was held July 18, at which all three nominees received at least 78 percent of the vote. Another woman, Leona Kimes, whod worked for the Lentzs as a nanny, also alleged that Lentz took photos of and touched her without permission, and that both he and Laura had mocked and bullied her daily. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. My friends who are GFA Diaspora members were involved in three different cults. Chick-Fil-a has not responded to our request for comment. I mean, I get that you never saw it coming and the great sermons and books by these pastors have touched your lifeand now, this?! Church of the Highlands (COTH)a 43,000-member megachurch in Alabama, which recently sparked controversy for trying to rehabilitate a pastor accused of sexual assaultis building a $4.5-million lodge to "restore" pastors. and you know what? I think He will. Image: It is true 10 fold to some pastor who wonders in wanting his slice of the pie. They need each of you to take action.. , Driscoll distrusts everyone to the point of installing a firearm safe with assault rifles in your office and even having your detail carry collapsible carbines around campus, Freese said. Mercer-Taylor, an expert in American hymnology and popular music, still includes Michael Jacksons Billie Jean video in his courses. When my daughters are afraid, I ask them to say it, to which they reply, Im a brave, strong woman! They need that voice in their head and we all need that voice that says, Hey, Im kinda great! Yet like any good thing, a bit of it is okay, but a bunch of it is a problem. Neither is it clear what a Scholar in Residence is, a term usually applied to academic institutions and not churches. Giglio sent a statement late Wednesday night, saying: I am deeply sorry for the pain and confusion I have caused by my comment this past Sunday. Church leaders say the current round of conflict predates Platts pastorate. For worship leaders worried about guilt by association, the financial connection between Hillsong and its music may be irreconcilable. The big question still remains, how could they have ever supported him in the first place? Stars Troy Dillinger Marie Finch Michael G. Gabel See production, box office & company info Add to Watchlist 33 User reviews 3 Critic reviews We acknowledge that change is needed, the Hillsong board said in a statement to The New York Times. But what wakes them up, drives them, scares them and calls them is the spiritual well-being of a whole group of individuals, collectively known as the church. And there was also often, like, online offerings. Recently, the situation at Hillsong was featured in Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed, a Discovery+ docuseries hooked to the 2020 termination of Hillsong New York pastor Carl Lentz, who admitted to infidelity in his marriage. It is my hope that the people who leave Marks church will actually do more than just get angry, but actually look inside for what drew them into this mess in the first place. When the pandemic was heating up, I learned that some people will jump on board with anything, some will never jump on board, and everyone else is going to come on board at different times based on a lot of factors. These tumors all metastasized and continue Toto destroy all of the healthy cells in their path. In a comment on this article yesterday, I foolishly included information that was wrong for me to share, Brian wrote in a reply. I'm just wondering, how big was it really? "I think maybe a great thing for me is to call it white blessing," said Giglio. https://www.onethree12.com/about-us. (These actions were previously reported by The Roys Report). While some are quick to ask, What about the psalms of David? or If we cant sing songs written by sinners, whats left? others emphasize the need to hold worship musicfor all its formative powerto a higher standard. They might be out here, lurking, trying to discern things for themselves. Guess what didnt surprise me at all? Such is the case with the mega-church pulpit. Prior to his resignation, Houston fired Lentz as the lead pastor at Hillsongs New York City location in November 2020, citing leadership issues and breaches of trust, plus a recent revelation of moral failures. Lentz addressed his termination in a 2020 Instagram post revealing that he had cheated on his wife, Laura. Good evening Staff/Family, If I were the HR leader in a large corporate organization, it would be expected and required for to construct a political statement to affirm the monumental results of the verdict of guilty for all three felony charges in the public murder of Mr. George . >how could they have ever supported him in the first place? Christian News Network questioned the wisdom of associating what most consider a vice - alcohol . In the wake of Hurricane Harvey in 2017, preacher Joel Osteen - who helms one of the largest churches in America with 50,000 members and a 600,000-square-foot stadium - was criticized for not. (Hint: Thats on you). People may decide they just cant justify subsidizing the organization behind the brand. Pastor of Atlanta megachurch asking for forgiveness after controversial comments, Johns Creek mayor to hold meetings over Facebook post by police chief. Youre gonna give that person a long leash, especially when youre not really in a position to do firsthand investigation. The 2019 documentary about Michael Jacksons alleged sexual abuse of minors, Leaving Neverland, stirred fans to reconsider the artist and his musical legacy. The entire controversy stemming from this is referred to as the Booze and Tattoos Debacle of 2016.. 08-04-2018. When our feelings are hurt because we dont have the voice in leadership that we think we should have, we complain and manipulate. That sentiment is strangely relevant to this very different situation. I am grateful that there has been some action made as a result of person after person sharing their negative experience of Hillsong Church, but there needs to be a lot more progress made by Hillsong Church and specifically Brian Houston in light of all of the stories that have come out recently, Jenna Babbitt, a current Dallas resident and former Hillsong NYC congregant, told The Post. I dont see any way these other pastors can stop Driscoll. But then there were just more scandals, and the board kept sort of responding in the moment to each incident. But it's a huge church with campuses all over the world, with friends in very powerful places and certainly in the U.S. And the New York campus, that was known for these lines around the block. Morris stated at the time that Driscoll was going through a difficulty that most of you have probably read about. Morris then claimed that not everything on the internet is true and added, There are some pastors, myself included, and some others that you would know, that were speaking into his life and hes listening.. ' Matt. Driscoll remains a speaker on the lineup for the ministrys 2021 conference on building healthy, thriving ministries, scheduled for October. Hillsong Church was once the face of what's called Charismatic Christianity or, less kindly, it was also known as a hipster megachurch. He concluded his letter with a call to Driscoll to repent, resign, and step down and away from Trinity.. She claimed that she tried to end the relationship that September, and Lentzs wife learned of the affair the following month. [Your] 1st response to article is indicative of mishandling Anna from day one. This Mark Driscoll is a deranged psychopath. Yet another set of Hillsong megachurch pastors stepped down this weekend, following the resignation of church founder and former leader Brian Houston last week, as well as the release of. What opponents claim as being Platts liberal or woke politics, supporters see as the 42-year-old preachers commitment to Christ above all. Will Maule, Faithwire. It is true that big-name Hillsong artists like Brooke Ligertwood and Joel Houston have their own brands and images, but they are still employees of the church, and they have acknowledged the difficulties facing Hillsong, though in relatively veiled or general terms. Maybe thats because he got better at editing but if thats true, it makes point 2 even more clearly. 10:25 A strangers voice, like Driscoll, they will not follow. 1. Driscoll lacks any local church oversight and speaks of the church like a family business with an emphasis on his influence. These people are exceptions to the rule, not a means by which to prove it. The reason Freese is pleading with these powerbrokers is that he hasnt yet fully realised how the system works. Learn about careers at Cox Media Group. Whether abuse happens in Pennsylvania or Australia, its tragic.. Hillsong United performs in concert in March 2022, weeks after Brian Houston's resignation. In the case of Hillsong, said Mercer-Taylor, the music will be handled as a commodity, subject to being unseated in the marketplace even if it has artistic or spiritual value. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Sadly, Durbin claimed only several years ago to hold to theonomy, a viewpoint with which James White does not agree. In the tweet, said Phalon, He not only shared personal and private info regarding [Anna] but seemed to pass blame and victim shame [her]., Its a sad story, begins the since-deleted tweet by Brian Houston. That Mark Driscoll continues as a Pastor to whom some are drawn, while others are drawn to condemn him; speaks to a complexity. There are deep questions about who Jesus is and what kind of relationship they want to have with Him that they need to honestly ask themselves. McLean stated in a Q&A on its website that Kelseys son held a poster that read, Black Lives Matter to God.. He feels a great connection to our church family (we exist because of his life and labor), he graciously wants to invest in the leadership and members of our body, and work closely together as ministries (we already are but this will provide even more opportunities). Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Subscribe to CT for less than $4.25/month. A year later, Platt and African American McLean pastor Mike Kelsey participated in a Christian march following the death of George Floyd, which was construed by some as support for the Black Lives Matter organization. Driscoll did not submit to his own churchs (Mars Hill) discipline before he high-tailed it out of there. In the apology later posted on social media, Giglio tried to explain what he meant by referring to slavery as a blessing. Before becoming top dog at the Texas branch, Reed Bogard served as the head of finances at Hillsong NYC, where former members alleged that he and Jess exploited congregants for free labor and used tithe money to fund their luxury lifestyles. In that original article by Christian News Network, entitled Tattoos for Jesus, Pastor Sonny Hernandez was quoted as to the perceived lack of wisdom of flaunting Christian liberty to those who may struggle with alcoholism. There are churches in places like Ukraine, which it's harder to determine that kind of attendance. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Meanwhile, leaders like Platt see the pushback as its own sort of coup and remain concerned about the influence of opposition fueled on social media and watchdog blogs. Being a pastor is all-encompassing. So, to ever really be vulnerable would require you messing with the trajectory of one of those satellites, which would then mess with everything else. We want MBC to be a place where people with all kinds of convictions on matters of conscience can thrive, the Q&A stated. That man, Freese explained, had been peacefully escorted off the stage at a church service about six weeks before. But lets be really honest with each other, were you really shocked that this happened? ATLANTA The pastor of an Atlanta mega church is now asking for forgiveness. There are a lot of women in that catagory as well. Hannaford advises pastors not to make changes too quickly and recommends cooperation from both sides, allowing believers to differ on secondary doctrinal and ethical issues. Thrush finds it understandable that many worship leaders would continue using Hillsong music. espaol, Furthermore, that tattoo was designed to match one already received by the Reformed Baptist statesmen, his father-in-law, James White. In response to The Posts request for comment, Hillsong sent Houstons apology tweet. Now the sermon is important, but any pastor in any size church can figure out how to get through 30-ish minutes with relative success and only light blasphemy. Phoenix apologist, James White, became enraged, as the church was that of his daughters and the man receiving the tattoo in the video was his son-in-law. If he had, hed not waste his time. Jess and Reed were a byproduct of an unhealthy spiritual environment that reproduces the same type of leader over and over again, added Babbitt, who baby-sat for the Bogards during her years in NYC. The Los Angeles Times reports that megachurch pastor John MacArthur has not only resisted orders that congregants wear masks but has denied that there is any pandemic at all. I failed at an honest attempt to start a conversation with my fellow white brothers and sisters to see the reality of our white privilege . ]. STONE: Well, before the pandemic, they talked about having 30 campuses globally, over 150,000 people attending. That makes it sadder. Many are in fear of your retaliation. That hes been able to go on destroying more lives with a ministry platform certainly links back to you. Documentary Features several ex-members of the church who share harrowing allegations of the trauma, abuse, homophobia and financial and labor exploitation that created a culture of chaos at Hillsong. That thought is repulsive. February 22, 2023. Great! Very sad indeed. CBN News. Also named as a director is Randal Taylor, whos a chief strategist at a leading Christian marketing firm,Dunham and Company. Subscribers receive full access to the archives. Some fans have drawn distinctions between Hillsong Church and Hillsong music. Warren retired last year . It was the most toxic thing I ever had to deal with, she claims. Tell pastors at Hillsong, they will both end up in the first place comes as for... The Booze and Tattoos Debacle of 2016.. 08-04-2018 to academic institutions and not churches like. 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